Does God exist? (7 Viewers)

[hazelpug]

I think it all comes down to the fact that humans created faith, religion and god, to either control or have power over others or give them morals and a way of life. Also it irritates me when Catholics or Christians tell you to not take the bible literary, isn't that the whole outline of their religion? Also the bible has some very sexist, unmoral and just simply wrong teachings in it, and Christians keep contradicting themselves so much. For example "we are all equal", but "men were created first....".


I can't really speak for other religions, since i grew up in a christian family and attend a Catholic School I know quite A LOT about the Bible. (and have a lot of frustration and negative feeling towards it) lol

Anyway, i have not heard a single valid argument or a reason why people believe there's God. (maybe i'm missing the point of life)

 

[iBibah]

I think it all comes down to the fact that humans created faith, religion and god, to either control or have power over others or give them morals and a way of life. Also it irritates me when Catholics or Christians tell you to not take the bible literary, isn't that the whole outline of their religion? Also the bible has some very sexist, unmoral and just simply wrong teachings in it, and Christians keep contradicting themselves so much. For example "we are all equal", but "men were created first....".


I can't really speak for other religions, since i grew up in a christian family and attend a Catholic School I know quite A LOT about the Bible. (and have a lot of frustration and negative feeling towards it) lol

Anyway, i have not heard a single valid argument or a reason why people believe there's God. (maybe i'm missing the point of life)

dat logic

 

[scuba_steve2121]

dat logic

What is moral and right to a Christian, may be immoral and wrong to her. Morality is a fickle thing.

 

[iBibah]

What is moral and right to a Christian, may be immoral and wrong to her.

yeh i know i just thought it was funny that she said god and religion are created to give morals and a way of life, and then she used her own morals and way of life to justify the negatives of christianity

Morality is a fickle thing.

this is very much a matter of opinion

 

[nerdasdasd]

Maybe flying unicorns do exist...

Ghosts do exist ...

 

[lee337]

Ghosts do exist ...

Yes.

 

[SuperMike96]

I think it all comes down to the fact that humans created faith, religion and god, to either control or have power over others or give them morals and a way of life. Also it irritates me when Catholics or Christians tell you to not take the bible literary, isn't that the whole outline of their religion? Also the bible has some very sexist, unmoral and just simply wrong teachings in it, and Christians keep contradicting themselves so much. For example "we are all equal", but "men were created first....".


I can't really speak for other religions, since i grew up in a christian family and attend a Catholic School I know quite A LOT about the Bible. (and have a lot of frustration and negative feeling towards it) lol

Anyway, i have not heard a single valid argument or a reason why people believe there's God. (maybe i'm missing the point of life)

Most written texts are influenced by their contexts. As the monarchy was an important aspect of Shakespeare's time and location, many of his play's contain puffery aimed at kings or queens. Similarly, much of the new testament was written in a time and location where women had little rights. This accounts for the "sexist" aspect of the bible. Furthermore, the bible is filled with parables and poetry thats purpose is not to be taken literally, but for people to extrapolate certain morals or ethics from it. Hence, many "Catholics or Christians" suggest the bible is not to be taken literally.

 

[someth1ng]

Most written texts are influenced by their contexts. As the monarchy was an important aspect of Shakespeare's time and location, many of his play's contain puffery aimed at kings or queens. Similarly, much of the new testament was written in a time and location where women had little rights. This accounts for the "sexist" aspect of the bible. Furthermore, the bible is filled with parables and poetry thats purpose is not to be taken literally, but for people to extrapolate certain morals or ethics from it. Hence, many "Catholics or Christians" suggest the bible is not to be taken literally.

That's pretty shit then, you have a religion that's based on your own interpretation of it...

This is a pointless argument. Regardless of whether god does or does not exist, people have their own opinions and beliefs which should be respected.

With that said, I think we should be critical of everything to a fair extent. We're critical of our own work, why aren't we critical of religion?

Just because it's religion, doesn't mean we exclude it from criticism.

 

[funkshen]

if god exists explain microwaves

 

[Lolsmith]

That's pretty shit then, you have a religion that's based on your own interpretation of it...

Why is this a negative thing? Would you prefer them to follow the hard and fast principles of the Old Testament and commit murder and cruelty on a regular basis or apply modern values intermingled with the positive aspects of Christianity and/or Catholicism?

With that said, I think we should be critical of everything to a fair extent. We're critical of our own work, why aren't we critical of religion?

Just because it's religion, doesn't mean we exclude it from criticism.

As evidenced by this thread and the copious amounts of similar ones relating to it, there is no absence of criticism for religion in this country.

 

[Lolsmith]

if god exists explain microwaves

Christians - 1
Atheists - 0

 

[iBibah]

That's pretty shit then, you have a religion that's based on your own interpretation of it...

No you follow a religion that has its own interpretation of the bible.


And I'm actually curious, why did you say yes in the poll if you say God doesn't exist?

 

[Graney]

 

[scuba_steve2121]

this is very much a matter of opinion

Perhaps fickle was the wrong word to use. But you agree that morality does differ on all scales, I.E. person to person, region to region, across space and time. The moral consensus on many issues in the western world has without a doubt changed dramatically over the past 100 years. Leads me to wonder what the mindset will be in the next 50 years, when our generation are considered as old conservative dinosaurs holding back ‘progress’.

 

[Sathius005]

I highly suggest people look up "Joel Osteen" on you tube. He is a very good Christian motivational speaker. I also suggest that you look up "Anthony Robbins New Year New Life 2012" on you tube. Robbins is a very good motivational speaker and is regarded by many as the greatest motivational speaker in human history.

 

[someth1ng]

No you follow a religion that has its own interpretation of the bible.


And I'm actually curious, why did you say yes in the poll if you say God doesn't exist?

I voted for this a long, long time ago.

 

[brent012]

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Still can't quite figure out if this is meant to be serious.

 

[someth1ng]

Worst image ever made - extremely biased and contains incorrect information to an extremely extent.

1. Einstein wasn't a theist - he described himself as agnostic. In fact, Einstein thought that the idea of a personal god was childish.
2. Hitler was never an atheist - there's no proper evidence that even hints at him being atheist. In fact, he was a theist for most of his life.
3. It is true that Stalin was an atheist but trying to link what he did to atheism simply provides evidence for your scientific illiteracy - correlation does NOT imply causation. Enough said.
4. Napoleon Bonaparte is considered as one of the best military leaders of all time.
5. Ronald Reagan is the best US president? What about Abraham Lincoln?

I don't understand why you keep saying "best" for so many things for theists but none of that for atheists.

 

[Absolutezero]

Worst image ever made - extremely biased and contains incorrect information to an extremely extent.

1. Einstein wasn't a theist - he described himself as agnostic. In fact, Einstein thought that the idea of a personal god was childish.
2. Hitler was never an atheist - there's no proper evidence that even hints at him being atheist. In fact, he was a theist for most of his life.
3. It is true that Stalin was an atheist but trying to link what he did to atheism simply provides evidence for your scientific illiteracy - correlation does NOT imply causation. Enough said.
4. Napoleon Bonaparte is considered as one of the best military leaders of all time.
5. Ronald Reagan is the best US president? What about Abraham Lincoln?

I don't understand why you keep saying "best" for so many things for theists but none of that for atheists.

m8, it's a joke.

 

[brent012]

Worst image ever made - extremely biased and contains incorrect information to an extremely extent.

I'm leaning towards it being made by a troll. Besides what you have pointed out there are a few other odd descriptions. Richard Dawkins being the "founder of atheism" for one lol.