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Dutch Politician Suggests to Ban the Quran (2 Viewers)

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candisnap said:
wat the hell u going on about with any no civil rights?? dubias one of the richest countries in the world, clearly because all races and sexes have been given equalty. plus Qaddafi over threw the monarchy,a nd actaully was given his leadership, so ha! he didnt get his position any other way than popularity vote, and hes only intimidating against pro western people. if you dont understand his background, then dont state that hes a dictator.
Qadaffi led a coup d'etat as a military officer he didn't get elected any more then Stalin or Pinochet did. Go to Dubai and try and publish something criticizing the ruling family see how long Dubai's civil rights protect you.
 

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Captain Gh3y said:
No problem with them at all, which is why saying something bad about a religion isn't racist :D

You could make a case for hinduism since it's inseparably linked with India but not religions that actively seek to convert people of all cultures :D
They mis apply the word "racism", but that doesn't take away from what they are trying to say.

PS: indonesia isn't a race.
 

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zimmerman8k said:
I have no problem with people ripping on islam. Im actually very critical of it. I object to the extreme views being posted by people who dont realise when a joke is old and boring. Im sure as a libertarian you yourself would disagree with extreme proposals like banning the quaran which restricts individual liberty, no?
Of course I disagree with banning it, but going into a thread saying "yeah, guys, I support freedom of speech" would've been largely redundant given I've said that 1000000 times in the last couple of weeks.
 

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candisnap said:
The saddest thing is that your actually logically believe in what you are saying.

If the majority of Australians are stupid, why are you so adament on holding australian values.
Because it is true.
Because I am.

beentherdunthat said:
I can only resolve that
1) You are EMO.
2) You have the mean world syndrome. It's actually a syndrome, check it out sometime.

So what is your 'good' reason that you dislike Muslims?
No
No
There are plenty. I have mentioned them before.

onebytwo said:
bob brown is not rudd either
But he is also a bigger moron than howard.
 

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iamsickofyear12 said:
That's an unfair comparison because the aboriginals were useless. They slept in the dirt because they didn't have houses and when food got low during the year some of them just starved because they didn't have agriculture.
ok, firstly this is the dumbest post of the thread, and i havent even read all of it.
"aboriginals were useless" - useless for what? everybody has a right to life, just because their way of existence doesnt conform to your standards, doesnt make their life less meaningful.
how does their accommodation affect your life?
mind you they wouldnt be sniffing petrol, drinking alcohol and looking at porn all day, had white man not introduced it to them
 

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candisnap said:
give me a reason to criticize the ruling family.
.....and who says muslims don't understand liberal western values? There's no need for freedom of speech because there's nothing to use it for as the Dear leader (lord of all animals, most holy of holies) is beyond criticism.
 

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onebytwo said:
mind you they wouldnt be sniffing petrol, drinking alcohol and looking at porn all day, had white man not introduced it to them
Last I checked nobody's been coerced into substance abuse.
 

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withoutaface said:
Last I checked nobody's been coerced into substance abuse.
So in what circumstances would you engage in substance abuse?

PS: unless you're trying to say that racial qualities determine whether someone abuses substances, then explain further.
 

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MaNiElla said:
Turkey is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic. Even the laws there are not muslim laws. You've provided really weak examples to support your theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey
And you know why Turkey a country with 99% muslim population have secular constitution and Laws?

Ataturk, the father of modern Turkey believed Islam is associated with Backwardness. He banned headscarf, he banned Arabic alphabet and replaced with latin alphabet. He removed islamic Caliphate (which now Osama tried to restore).

Banning this book of violence would be a step forward to save billions of muslim soul.
 

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A few things.

Please stop littering the thread with abuse. Just because someone has a different idea to you, does not mean the person is stupid. Learn to hear them out, find flaws in their arguments, analyse their evidence and try to make a discussion. Together you can grow in your debating skills, and may come to some sort of agreement (which has happened in the past).

If you repeat your abusive/content free posts, I will certainly take action against you.

I am open to racial criticism, so long as it is clear, thoughtful and justified. Yes, it is possible. If you feel a person is criticising a race without any justification, please report the post and let me know rather than call them names and make my job harder.

Also, do not make statements (especially ones that are of a particularly controversial topic).

Lastly, and rather lightly, your moderator is not of anglo-saxon background and is a child of migrant parents. Do not offend her. :)

Thanks.
 

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withoutaface said:
Last I checked nobody's been coerced into substance abuse.
picture the pre-1778 native...note his/her dress code (if any, LOL), daily routine, eating habits, lifestyle, etc.
hmmm...no substance abuse!
 

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oh .........reading about aborigines, makes me think about all the disease and germs and other foreign agents brought in by the colonials. The aboriginals didnt have a solution for such problems and thus died in their thousands.

Even today, if you open up and listen to an elder or something, they will tell you how they used to live. They were at one with nature and it provided endless solutions for them. They could go for days and weeks solely on their amazing tracking abilities and the ability to almost sense the presence of water and nourishment throughout THEIR land. You dont need big buildings and mansions to prove the intellect and eligibilty of your race or ethnicity.

THANKS
 

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To add, politicians say a lot of things. This has not been passed.

Moved to L&O for this reason.
 

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I'm pretty sure they had their own forms of substance abuse of herbal and natural remedies.
 

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onebytwo said:
picture the pre-1778 native...note his/her dress code (if any, LOL), daily routine, eating habits, lifestyle, etc.
hmmm...no substance abuse!
So if I become addicted to heroin, I should blame the drug, rather than myself for being an idiot and abusing it?
 

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onebytwo said:
ok, firstly this is the dumbest post of the thread, and i havent even read all of it.
"aboriginals were useless" - useless for what? everybody has a right to life, just because their way of existence doesnt conform to your standards, doesnt make their life less meaningful.
how does their accommodation affect your life?
mind you they wouldnt be sniffing petrol, drinking alcohol and looking at porn all day, had white man not introduced it to them
Aboriginals were compared to the British... the idea being that since Aboriginals were the majority they were better.

British people had houses - Aboriginals slept in the dirt and in caves.
British used agriculture to prevent starving - Aboriginals often ran out of food sources and because they had no agriculture they just let people die.
British had ships - Aboriginals had canoes
Guns - Spears
etc

I disagree. Everyone does not have an equal right to life. Some people are better than others.

But they wouldn't have houses. Could potentially starve to death. No access to medicine at all. Much shorter life spans.
 

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They were manipulated into accepting alcohol, etc from the European settlers. They were told that it was a "magical drink" or whatever. It has happened to various indigenous cultures around the world, inluding native american peoples. They had no knowledge of white europeans and their customs, they were dying in their thousands as they were massacred, poisoned and became diseased, and their elders were dying. They had no idea what they were doing. It is not their fault.
 

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