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Engineering-Which one?? Which Field?? (1 Viewer)
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A High Way Man
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)A High Way Man
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i think structural is a stream in civil, like environmental
An economics degree just means you have to have economics as one of your majors, you can do commerce and major in eco + something else and its the same as an eco degree but with more variety. Structural Engineering is simply a specialty in Civil, you can do everything a normal civil engineer does as well.
Biomedical - Not many job opportunities
Civil - Greatest demand and lots of money
Mechanical - Slightly less than civil
Electrical - Good money and opportunity, Really hard though
Biomedical - Not many job opportunities
Civil - Greatest demand and lots of money
Mechanical - Slightly less than civil
Electrical - Good money and opportunity, Really hard though
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Civil is mostly roads and brides stuff like that while structural is mixed and mainly to do with buildings such as designing beams or roofs.
There are a whole lot of articles on google explaining each one, would get alot of info there.
There are a whole lot of articles on google explaining each one, would get alot of info there.
Civil engineers build and maintain the big things in life – roads, bridges, tunnels, houses, offices, shopping and residential complexes, water and sanitation systems and other infrastructure. They generally work outside on construction sites, but can also be found managing projects, consulting or designing in office-based jobs.
if you choose you can specialise in final year or so into:
Structural:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in large, complex structures such as skyscrapers and large bridges. You will learn the advanced design and modelling techniques needed to erect and maintain structures like Centrepoint Tower, Sydney Harbour Bridge or the Sydney Opera House, and the traditional and advanced materials available for their construction.
(like in prison break, Schofield's structural engineering company designed the frameworks (hallways/walls/piping/etc etc) of the prison, and he took the design papers, and plotting a beautiful prison escape, but with many many obstacles in the way)
you can also specialise in:
Construction:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in the design and construction of large projects, such as high-rise apartment or office blocks, and high-level skills in scheduling and management of sub-contractors.
You'll gain an understanding of human resources, finance and environmental planning and law, from development applications to environmental impact assessments. With cross-faculty subjects from Design, Architecture and Building, you'll also learn the details of installing building services such as lifts, air conditioning, cabling, IT and telecommunications.
Water:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional Civil Engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in water engineering, learning about water resource management.
In addition to the introductory subjects on urban water systems and flood protection common to all civil engineers, this specialisation will deepen your knowledge of the quantity and quality of water in surface and groundwater systems, and give you the analytical and practical skills to help find solutions to the issues of drought, salinisation and flood affecting Australia today.
Materials:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in materials which go beyond the usual concrete, steel and timber. You'll learn about advanced non-traditional materials such as fibre-reinforced polymers, ceramics and glass, and their applications in everything from advanced structures to space and military hardware. You will also learn about their increasing use in the repair of damaged or decaying structures.
With cross-faculty subjects from Science, you will also learn how to analyse and test new materials to gauge their performance, skills which you can apply to any new material you may encounter. You will also gain confidence in working with materials scientists and be able to understand both the chemical development and the engineering applications of non-traditional materials, acting as a link between science researchers and engineers.
You can pick whatever interests you more....
or you can just do the straight Civil Engineering Stream with no specialy:
Straight Civil:
Civil engineers build and maintain the big things in life – roads, bridges, tunnels, houses, offices, shopping and residential complexes, water and sanitation systems and other infrastructure. They generally work outside on construction sites, but can also be found managing projects, consulting or designing in office-based jobs.
The Civil Major will give you the basic competencies you need to be a professional civil engineer, plus skills in construction, project management, design and surveying. You'll also learn about the properties and use of concrete, steel and timber, and the physics and mechanics of structures large and small. You will also gain expertise in water supply systems, flood protection, sanitation, hydraulics and waste disposal.
Civil engineers get to see physical structures and systems as reward for their work, and make a huge difference in establishing or repairing infrastructure in developing or war-damaged countries.
or if you have a thing for the enivronment and science, theres always:
Civil & Environmental Engineering:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will spend around half your degree developing an holistic focus on environmental issues.
You'll develop practical skills and expertise in environmental impact assessment, water and wastewater treatment and management, waste management, environmental planning and law, natural resource management (including land and water resources) and sustainable development. You'll also gain expertise in biology, ecology and microbiology, plus an understanding of the social, political and legal aspects of environmental planning and management.
I hope that helps!
Compliments of UTS: http://www.eng.uts.edu.au/
if you choose you can specialise in final year or so into:
Structural:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in large, complex structures such as skyscrapers and large bridges. You will learn the advanced design and modelling techniques needed to erect and maintain structures like Centrepoint Tower, Sydney Harbour Bridge or the Sydney Opera House, and the traditional and advanced materials available for their construction.
(like in prison break, Schofield's structural engineering company designed the frameworks (hallways/walls/piping/etc etc) of the prison, and he took the design papers, and plotting a beautiful prison escape, but with many many obstacles in the way)
you can also specialise in:
Construction:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in the design and construction of large projects, such as high-rise apartment or office blocks, and high-level skills in scheduling and management of sub-contractors.
You'll gain an understanding of human resources, finance and environmental planning and law, from development applications to environmental impact assessments. With cross-faculty subjects from Design, Architecture and Building, you'll also learn the details of installing building services such as lifts, air conditioning, cabling, IT and telecommunications.
Water:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional Civil Engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in water engineering, learning about water resource management.
In addition to the introductory subjects on urban water systems and flood protection common to all civil engineers, this specialisation will deepen your knowledge of the quantity and quality of water in surface and groundwater systems, and give you the analytical and practical skills to help find solutions to the issues of drought, salinisation and flood affecting Australia today.
Materials:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will exchange some subjects to specialise in materials which go beyond the usual concrete, steel and timber. You'll learn about advanced non-traditional materials such as fibre-reinforced polymers, ceramics and glass, and their applications in everything from advanced structures to space and military hardware. You will also learn about their increasing use in the repair of damaged or decaying structures.
With cross-faculty subjects from Science, you will also learn how to analyse and test new materials to gauge their performance, skills which you can apply to any new material you may encounter. You will also gain confidence in working with materials scientists and be able to understand both the chemical development and the engineering applications of non-traditional materials, acting as a link between science researchers and engineers.
You can pick whatever interests you more....
or you can just do the straight Civil Engineering Stream with no specialy:
Straight Civil:
Civil engineers build and maintain the big things in life – roads, bridges, tunnels, houses, offices, shopping and residential complexes, water and sanitation systems and other infrastructure. They generally work outside on construction sites, but can also be found managing projects, consulting or designing in office-based jobs.
The Civil Major will give you the basic competencies you need to be a professional civil engineer, plus skills in construction, project management, design and surveying. You'll also learn about the properties and use of concrete, steel and timber, and the physics and mechanics of structures large and small. You will also gain expertise in water supply systems, flood protection, sanitation, hydraulics and waste disposal.
Civil engineers get to see physical structures and systems as reward for their work, and make a huge difference in establishing or repairing infrastructure in developing or war-damaged countries.
or if you have a thing for the enivronment and science, theres always:
Civil & Environmental Engineering:
You'll learn all the key skills and competencies you need to become a professional civil engineer (as in the Civil Major), but will spend around half your degree developing an holistic focus on environmental issues.
You'll develop practical skills and expertise in environmental impact assessment, water and wastewater treatment and management, waste management, environmental planning and law, natural resource management (including land and water resources) and sustainable development. You'll also gain expertise in biology, ecology and microbiology, plus an understanding of the social, political and legal aspects of environmental planning and management.
I hope that helps!
Compliments of UTS: http://www.eng.uts.edu.au/
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drewbrow1
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Don't worry so much about how much you get paid for doing different streams. You'll get paid what you're worth based on your smarts and experience (and negotiating skills - yay free accommodation and flights!). If you suck at what you do, you will eventually get paid less than someone who is good at it.
More importantly, you'll hate it if you do civil and work in construction for the extra $5K p.a. and spend the rest of your life wishing you were in a nice office designing cars or power systems or prosthetic limbs. I'm doing civil btw, because I'd rather design dams and skyscrapers than welding rigs and air conditioners.
For those of you who still want to know salaries, here are the APESMA figures for median graduate total packages (not base salaries, which are 5-10K less) from june 07:
by discipline:
Chemical: $54148
Civil/structural: $59440
Electrical: $60447
Electronic/comm: $53822
Enviro: $51580
Mech: $54001
Other: $57112
by employer's industry:
consulting/tech services: $56680
construction/contracting/maintenance: $59825
mining etc: $60312
oil/gas exploration/production: $55353
electricity/gas supply: $58720
water, sewerage, drainage: $50070
communication inc telstra: $55045
other non-manufacturing: $47632
Ooooh look, construction and mining pay heaps! Lets all do that! I hope you enjoy being on hot dusty construction sites in the middle of nowhere working 60 hour weeks surrounded by bogan labourers (personal experience speaking loudly here... I'm going to go into consulting or research and sit in a nice office in Sydney, thank you very much)
For those of you who would like to know about employment oportunities, here is some info. Again, this is completely irrelevant in making career choices, because YOU WILL GET A JOB AS LONG AS YOU DON'T SUCK AT WHAT YOU DO. These are combined figures of 05/06 graduates seeking professional engineering jobs in march/april 07 (ie after about 6/18 months):
Chemical: 14.3%
Civil/structural: 3.8%
Computer systems/IT: 18%
Electrical: 6.4%
Electronic/comm: 10.3%
Enviro: 6.5%
Mech: 10%
Other: 12.3%
Note also that only people who want people to know their salary respond to these surveys, and that sample size is only 116.
More importantly, you'll hate it if you do civil and work in construction for the extra $5K p.a. and spend the rest of your life wishing you were in a nice office designing cars or power systems or prosthetic limbs. I'm doing civil btw, because I'd rather design dams and skyscrapers than welding rigs and air conditioners.
For those of you who still want to know salaries, here are the APESMA figures for median graduate total packages (not base salaries, which are 5-10K less) from june 07:
by discipline:
Chemical: $54148
Civil/structural: $59440
Electrical: $60447
Electronic/comm: $53822
Enviro: $51580
Mech: $54001
Other: $57112
by employer's industry:
consulting/tech services: $56680
construction/contracting/maintenance: $59825
mining etc: $60312
oil/gas exploration/production: $55353
electricity/gas supply: $58720
water, sewerage, drainage: $50070
communication inc telstra: $55045
other non-manufacturing: $47632
Ooooh look, construction and mining pay heaps! Lets all do that! I hope you enjoy being on hot dusty construction sites in the middle of nowhere working 60 hour weeks surrounded by bogan labourers (personal experience speaking loudly here... I'm going to go into consulting or research and sit in a nice office in Sydney, thank you very much)
For those of you who would like to know about employment oportunities, here is some info. Again, this is completely irrelevant in making career choices, because YOU WILL GET A JOB AS LONG AS YOU DON'T SUCK AT WHAT YOU DO. These are combined figures of 05/06 graduates seeking professional engineering jobs in march/april 07 (ie after about 6/18 months):
Chemical: 14.3%
Civil/structural: 3.8%
Computer systems/IT: 18%
Electrical: 6.4%
Electronic/comm: 10.3%
Enviro: 6.5%
Mech: 10%
Other: 12.3%
Note also that only people who want people to know their salary respond to these surveys, and that sample size is only 116.
his full of shit, dont listen to him. Civil Engineers do work on site, if you plan on doing construction, then most of the time you would be outside, civil engineers mainly work indoors, especially if you want to get into consulting.drewbrow1 said:
Q: In what kind of environment is the work done? Indoors? Outdoors?
Most of the work is done indoors, with some field work.
http://www.tryengineering.org/ask_archive.php?show=224&page=7
mining/petroleum engineering grads get 80-100k! (graduating from UNSW)
I chose engineering because i love building/structures and the good paying factor just came lucky for me.
Q: How many advancement opportunities?
Advancement opportunities depend on the office environment, but usually there are many opportunities for advancement for good civil engineers. Many leaders of big corporations are civil engineers.