for those doing 10 units... (2 Viewers)

[Shadowdude]

Good point - no second chances at uni.

 

[gracee09]

If you go in an exam and completely screw up, you don't deserve to go to university.

i gotta agree with that lol

 

[kateemily]

It is possible, shuttle. There was this boy in Year 12 who was aceing Physics, got a great assessment mark - was going to get an ATAR of around 90, from what I heard from a girl in his class. However, mid-HSC Physics exam, he had a migraine. His 90+ expected dropped to 67.50, or there abouts.

Now, I know for a fact he was smart, 80 was not out of the question, rather normally expected - but his 10 units killed him in the end.

he shouldve put in for special consideration. ive done minimum units and scored 80-95 for all my subjects and ive battled long term illness that has very much affected my studies. if u dnt let exams and assessments get 2 ur head and dominate u, then ull be fine no matter what. stick ur head in a book and be productive. everyone that does well is productive! no matter what their circumstances

 

[Shadowdude]

I would assume he went for special consideration, but failed. Migraines especially ones that pop up are hard to prove - BoS would've just said, "Oh, he's just faking it because he's whinging that the exam was hard."

 

[_j-sbugs_24]

the way i see it is...
doing and extra subject, means a whole extra set of assessments, and a lot less time to prepare for all of them.:jaw:

i'm doing 10 units, and picked them based on what i did really well in, in year 11, and the ones i enjoy of course.

theres no point of having "back up subjects", you should know what you're good at and what you're not good at by now. keep the subjects you're good at and you'll be fine!

=]

 

[Sociasci010]

I agree with the user who said it is just a whole another set of assessments on top of what you already have if you have a subject you are contemplating dropping.

I do ten, i dropped one of my best exam performing subjects in lieu of keeping Maths. And now im using that time i'd be doing that 6th subject in, to study for maths.

Everyone who drops does so for a reason.
They might not enjoy it, they might not be good at it, they may not even need it for whatever purpose is served down the track.

No one pressure me in to dropping one either, was completely my own decision and i don't regret it.

 

[jenga218]

Well, I'm doing 10 units. I don't think I could do any more.

My school tried to convince us all to do 12. So I mentioned to my Dad that I was considering keeping General Maths, because the school, and my maths teacher, "strongly recommended it". He was just like "Don't listen to them. I did 12 units on my HSC, and I would have been fine with 10 units." So in the end, I listened to him.

This means I can devote more time to assignments and assesment tasks in each unit, and I know that I have a better chance of doing well if I have less to worry about. For me, less work = less stress.

 

[iSplicer]

Do ten units and nail all ten. Problem solved. I'll show you how its done!

 

[Shadowdude]

To add some discussion, let's quote some stats from the BoS:

UAI	ATAR	Most	% >10u
100	99.95	13/14	87
95-99	95.40+	12	77.8
90-95	90.80+	11	71.5
85-90	86.25+	10	64.8
80-85	81.65+	10	60.7
75-80	77.10+	10	55.7
70-75	72.55+	10	50.5
65-70	67.95+	10	46.3
60-65	63.40+	10	42.8

We can see from those stats, from the 2008 UAC scaling report - those who do get less than 90 ATAR will probably do 10 units. The more units a person does, the higher the tendency they get to find higher ATAR's. 87% of those who got 99.95 ATAR (100 UAI) did more than 10 units, 77.8% of those who got from 95-99 UAI did more than 10 units...

Seems here from this, is that those who do 10 units are associated with the less successful, ATAR-wise.

Then from 2007, trends abound:

UAI	ATAR	Most	% >10u
100	99.95	12	100
95-99	95.40+	12	78.4
90-95	90.80+	11	72.3
85-90	86.25+	11	67.3
80-85	81.65+	10	62.7
75-80	77.10+	10	57.3
70-75	72.55+	10	52.8
65-70	67.95+	10	48.8
60-65	63.40+	10	44.3

Looks like nailing all ten is not very common at all.

 

[annabackwards]

To add some discussion, let's quote some stats from the BoS:

UAI    ATAR    Most    % >10u
100    99.95    13/14    87
95-99    95.40+    12    77.8
90-95    90.80+    11    71.5
85-90    86.25+    10    64.8
80-85    81.65+    10    60.7
75-80    77.10+    10    55.7
70-75    72.55+    10    50.5
65-70    67.95+    10    46.3
60-65    63.40+    10    42.8

We can see from those stats, from the 2008 UAC scaling report - those who do get less than 90 ATAR will probably do 10 units. The more units a person does, the higher the tendency they get to find higher ATAR's. 87% of those who got 99.95 ATAR (100 UAI) did more than 10 units, 77.8% of those who got from 95-99 UAI did more than 10 units...

Seems here from this, is that those who do 10 units are associated with the less successful, ATAR-wise.

Then from 2007, trends abound:

UAI    ATAR    Most    % >10u
100    99.95    12    100
95-99    95.40+    12    78.4
90-95    90.80+    11    72.3
85-90    86.25+    11    67.3
80-85    81.65+    10    62.7
75-80    77.10+    10    57.3
70-75    72.55+    10    52.8
65-70    67.95+    10    48.8
60-65    63.40+    10    44.3

Looks like nailing all ten is not very common at all.

That's because lots of "smarter" kids accelerate their learning so they end up with more than 10 units

I know people who have done 10 units and gotten excellent results. Just nail your 10 units with the extra time you have and you'll be fine

 

[Schoey93]

I am not a gambling man - I'd rather do 12, in my case 14 (just in case I drop EX2 and MX2) - just in case. Besides, one stupid mistake, or one illness WILL screw you up on 10 units. 12 units, less so, 14 even less... however the more units you do, the less time you have.

12-13 is a nice balance, I think.

I disagree. There is an illness misadventure system that allows students who are too sick to complete an exam or submit an assignment to get an estimated mark. Doing extra units because you are worried you will get sick is silly.

I think the only reasons you should do extra units are if your school asks you to, e.g. a Catholic school asks you to study 1 unit religion and you don't take extension subjects so you do 11 units, OR if you genuinely enjoy 11-13+ units of subjects.

I disagree with doing subjects you dislike, even if you can get good marks in them. Don't feel like you have to do a subject that you don't like, particularly mathematics. It is easy to teach yourself mathematics during your first year at university, as there as so many great resources available to you and lecturers willing to help you. There are also many university courses that do not require mathematics.

 

[Essjaybee]

At first i had 12 units, but i always knew i'd drop down to 10. I just didn't want to make the wrong decision about what to drop. But i knew i wanted to do 10 units for HSC because
- More time devoted to each subject
- Less assignments, homework
- I know all the work i'm doing actually counts towards something
- This way i can't justify laziness or screwing up by saying "its ok, i do extra units so i'm allowed to screw up"
- No more time wasted thinking should i drop this subject, i'll just do this last minute because i can drop the subject anyway so it wont matter, what should i drop etc.

But that's just me and how i think about it.

 

[nicola.jade.xx]

I just finished my hsc with 10 units and for me, i found it alot easier because i stressed less. I only had to worry about 6 exams and i could study more on those subjects rather than for more if i were doing 12 units. That goes for the whole of year 12 with every assessment, it was alot less stressful.
However, if you want a good atar and are not confident with every single one of your subjects, 10 units is bad, cause there is a chance you'll mess one up.
But if you're really good and confident at all your subjects, wouldn't worry at all.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

hey guys,
I do 12 units. Most of my other friends are doing 10 units and they dont have a problem with it. Also alot of my friends who have just now finished the HSC have only done 10 units but generally they are all up in the 90's. Personally I enjoy doing 12 units. That way just incase i screw up in one of my subjects, it would'nt count in my HSC mark. My advice..choose whatever you are comfortable with. Don't do something because someone tells you to. At the end of the day, it is your HSC

HSC 2010
Extension 2 English
Legal studies
2u maths
Biology
IPT

 

[youngminii]

If I chose 12 units I'd probably have dropped Modern History anyway, making that back down to 10 units.

 

[Essjaybee]

Don't do something because someone tells you to. At the end of the day, it is your HSC

HSC 2010
Extension 2 English
Legal studies
2u maths
Biology
IPT

+1
Totally agree with the person who does all my subjects + IPT

 

[Shadowdude]

Those accelerants shouldn't be counted... if they did 6 units in 2008 and then finished the HSC with the remaining 4 in 2009... that is screwing up the results.

 

[ily-lesterbangs]

scaling is the biggest mystery to me, i will never even try to understand it.

i do 10 units. i was doing ancient but literally fell asleep in every lesson. i do all my textiles classes in one block on a tuesday afternoon going after school which gives me two more free doubles during the week on top of my already free periods, all of these are conveniently spaced around when i have art. now im actually using my nap time.

i think its really vital you do things you enjoy and that you have motivation to go above and beyond with.

 

[Sarebs]

I think it's always going to be one of those "the grass is always greener on the other side" kind of things.

Having done 10 units, I now think it would have been wiser to choose 12 units. Maths just stuffed me around.

 

[cherii2007]

I would not have survived the HSC if I had stayed with my 12 units. I had modern history, and just everything about the subject killed me. I hated going to class, I didn't really like the class, and my teacher taught in a way that conflicted with my way of learning. I don't have that mind to do well in modern history- I'm not interested in the subject, overall. I would have been more interested in Ancient History. What are they doing now in Modern History?
Stalemate or whatever. WWI...which is meant to be interesting, but even THAT I couldn't get into. Before that we were doing China and stuff. What. The. Frick. In Ancient they get to do SPARTA. xD

In the end, I would have dropped the 2 units sooner or later. I'm glad I did it sooner, rather than later. No, I would not have accumulated interest sometime in the early future. If I despised it over 3 and a half terms, what would make me suddenly like it? Heh. Maybe a new teacher.