Nebuchanezzar
Banned
Well they should pay more!
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Nebuchanezzar
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NERD FIGHT!
a) "the world can only be socially-powerful if all its markets are performing efficiently." That's more than likely true, and I have absolutely no means to suggest otherwise. But take off your foggy spectacles and look at the situation we're talking about here. This isn't the world, it's an educational institution for Christ's sake. To perform effectively is to be able to invest in future, to be able to perform well at the current time and all those other little measure you've set up, but there's a helluva lot more to it than that pal.
b) "Have a look at the tough time a Politician would have trying to spin that bullshit." Well, it clearly can't be acheived with the current governments. Moving on, the spin doctoring of these ideas is completely irrelevant. The general public is (sadly) concerned only of the amount of cash in their hip pocket, and funding universities isn't up there on their priorities list. Does that mean that they're inherently correct? Of course not.
c) I agree with your last point. If they are failing, then something must be done. However, and I repeat this later, profit is not the only measure of performance, especially for something that provides an intangible asset (for the woeful economists anyway) of great important such as a university - education and enlightenment. Yes, UNSW used to be a degree factory. Hilmer wants to work on that? That's fine by me, but I sincerely doubt that it will be terribly easy for that to happen when you're cutting back on assets and funding to such a vital school.
Obviously, I do not care about your theories posed by elderly men in their wonderfully boring thesis published a couple of years ago.
a) "the world can only be socially-powerful if all its markets are performing efficiently." That's more than likely true, and I have absolutely no means to suggest otherwise. But take off your foggy spectacles and look at the situation we're talking about here. This isn't the world, it's an educational institution for Christ's sake. To perform effectively is to be able to invest in future, to be able to perform well at the current time and all those other little measure you've set up, but there's a helluva lot more to it than that pal.
b) "Have a look at the tough time a Politician would have trying to spin that bullshit." Well, it clearly can't be acheived with the current governments. Moving on, the spin doctoring of these ideas is completely irrelevant. The general public is (sadly) concerned only of the amount of cash in their hip pocket, and funding universities isn't up there on their priorities list. Does that mean that they're inherently correct? Of course not.
c) I agree with your last point. If they are failing, then something must be done. However, and I repeat this later, profit is not the only measure of performance, especially for something that provides an intangible asset (for the woeful economists anyway) of great important such as a university - education and enlightenment. Yes, UNSW used to be a degree factory. Hilmer wants to work on that? That's fine by me, but I sincerely doubt that it will be terribly easy for that to happen when you're cutting back on assets and funding to such a vital school.
There! There it is! You believe that the ONLY measure of performance from a school at a university is its profit margin, when it's clearly not the only measure. Yes, should the performance of the school of chemistry be increased, I have no doubts that popularity will also increase. I also happen to think that it's fairly logical that once its popularity increases with more students going to that school, that profit margins will also likely go up. It seems counter intuitive to anyone but the most ardent profit prostitute like yourself though, that if anything, cutting funding from a school that's almost unrivalled in its importance to a relevant faculty will acheive anything but an increased performance. It's absolutely asinine to expect that such an important school which obviously incurs such hefty expenses due to its nature will do better when jobs are cut, or whatever the hell other bullshit theories you try to spin on it. FFS, yes, I agree that performance needs to increase, but cutting funding is NOT a logical way to acheive that.
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blackfriday
Pezzonovante
unsw is not only the school of chemistry. if money that could be invested in a more productive area is being inefficiently by the school of chemistry, then unsw management are well within their rights to reallocate their funds into something which will yield a higher return.
Nebuchanezzar
Banned
Oh come on. No self respecting university, especially one in UNSW's position as a reputed science research university is going to cut a school of chemistry.
Nebuchanezzar
Banned
I've said it before and I'll say it again, democracy simply doesn't work.
Hey going to be alittle offtopic here from this democratic debate. But for the 372 route, does anyone know roughly how long it takes for it to get from central to randwick racecourse (dropping off at Alison road nr King st)?
Since most of the time I take the 891 and walk to the racecourse
Since most of the time I take the 891 and walk to the racecourse
blackfriday
Pezzonovante
wow we needed that break. has anyone got spare tickets to rise against at the roundhouse?
Thanks Gman mate! I was contemplating on whether to catch the 372 around 7:55am, or to get to central early, and catch the 891 then walk.
Ah, I guess I must have made a page break to this topic then...
wow, something going on round the roundhouse in summer holidays?
By the way, hope everyone's finished up for 2006...
Ah, I guess I must have made a page break to this topic then...
wow, something going on round the roundhouse in summer holidays?
By the way, hope everyone's finished up for 2006...
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Nebuchanezzar
Banned
Yay! They're all finished. Now for summer session chem.
Friday 8 December 2006, 9am
Official Release of Results - All students will have received a results email in their student email account.
Monday 11 December 2006, 12 noon
Results and Academic Standing letters available on myUNSW.
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the results are usually released a few hours before the official time.
i believe maths and comp subjects release them a week or so earlier as well
Official Release of Results - All students will have received a results email in their student email account.
Monday 11 December 2006, 12 noon
Results and Academic Standing letters available on myUNSW.
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the results are usually released a few hours before the official time.
i believe maths and comp subjects release them a week or so earlier as well
Nebuchanezzar
Banned
All I have to say is, I don't care. My interest in this matter isn't based in politics, it's in the university
