girls doing ext 2? (2 Viewers)

[ishq]

Does anyone know how many Australians unis such as Harvard/Standford/Yale took in?...out of pure curiosty.

Single digits.
For undergrad, that is.
I'm not too sure about Postgrad.

 

[~ ReNcH ~]

Single digits.
For undergrad, that is.
I'm not too sure about Postgrad.

Hehe...I can imagine undergrad would be difficult - going from something like the HSC to Harvard.

 

[KFunk]

What's the attraction to ivy league schools? Apart from an awesome campus and being able to join the skulls.

 

[Hobbsee]

2 girls, 4 guys here...

It's kinda fun being the only female in the room for some of the time - sometimes the other girl doesnt come...

 

[ishq]

What's the attraction to ivy league schools? Apart from an awesome campus and being able to join the skulls.

I think, sub-consciously, every intelligent, ambitious and worldly kid out there knows that The US is the place to be. Its the most happening place on the planet - so why not be a part of it?
And of course, the creditionals of the Ive League Schools are hard to resist, especially if they are flaunted in almost every Hollywood Production and Dan Brown novel.

 

[KFunk]

I can understand going to a university/college which specialises in your research interests or if it has a particularly good program for something. But it just often seems to me it is, like you said, about the romantic hollywood notions. The credentials sound good but they also make you sound like a prat .

I've considered the US for graduate studies as well, but I'll probably end up staying in Australia.

 

[Sphyx]

He's our age, so I don't know the Euros must be doing something right.

In Europe, I know from personal experience, striving for success is instilled in young kids from a very very small age, rather that the Australian strive for mediocrity, and the "close enough is good enough" attitude. If you arent intelligent, it is a social stigma.

When i was in year 2, at the tender age of 6, I was doing homework every night (make no mistake, every night) for at least an hour and a half. In year 5 we did the maths that I did here in Australia at the end of year 10. Im talking Russia, btw. As a result an immense portion of the Russian population is highly skilled, unemployed and spends a miniscule portion of their lives in a sober state (hence the age expectancy of approx 59).

In that context, Australia must be doing something right with their education system.

 

[Slidey]

I can understand going to a university/college which specialises in your research interests or if it has a particularly good program for something. But it just often seems to me it is, like you said, about the romantic hollywood notions. The credentials sound good but they also make you sound like a prat .

I've considered the US for graduate studies as well, but I'll probably end up staying in Australia.

Romantic notions? Not for me. I'd hate to live on campus in America, and I think most of the people at such unis would be snobs. However, I cannot argue that their teaching quality is excellent. Actually, I don't think I'm interested in the Ivy League unis. Stanford, M.I.T. and Rice draw my attention more, as they are more focused on technology (Rice especially regarding nanotechnology).

Further, I would think employers would look on graduates from such unis favourably.

 

[Estel]

rather that the Australian strive for mediocrity, and the "close enough is good enough" attitude.
In year 5 we did the maths that I did here in Australia at the end of year 10

a) I don't know what school you're at, but the former is most certainly untrue.
b) That's a highly misleading statement. I know Indonesia does things in Yr 6 we do in Yr 10, and that's fact. But I also know that we do things in Yr 6 they do in Yr 10.
Not a big deal.

 

[Sphyx]

a) I don't know what school you're at, but the former is most certainly untrue..

I'm not talking about separate schools, sure, every country has the cream of the cream in isolated groups. I'm talking about the attitude of the masses, which is what ultimately determines how a country comes together. This attitude is very different, and I have grounds on which to speak, as I have lived in both places for a long time and have gone to shool in both, as has the rest of my family. There is no complacent, careless attitude in junior school that exists in Australia (please dont try to deny this). To put it simply, intelligence ends up being a result of nurture rather than nature.

Having said that, Australia rips in every single way on Russia, so I'm not complaining, just pointing out the differences in the structure of the education systems.

b) That's a highly misleading statement. I know Indonesia does things in Yr 6 we do in Yr 10, and that's fact. But I also know that we do things in Yr 6 they do in Yr 10.
Not a big deal.

Not sure what you are talking about there. Year 6 was the year I came here. I was put in the "Opportunity Class" in a private school. I remember the most challenging part of the course was figuring out patterns in a series of numbers. The rest of the time was spent writing a compilation of short stories entitled "My Street", and lying on the floor during story time reading "Tales of 4th Grade Nothing".

 

[~ ReNcH ~]

I can understand going to a university/college which specialises in your research interests or if it has a particularly good program for something. But it just often seems to me it is, like you said, about the romantic hollywood notions. The credentials sound good but they also make you sound like a prat .

I've considered the US for graduate studies as well, but I'll probably end up staying in Australia.

MBA @ Harvard
I think that's one degree that all business and commerce students strive to achieve. It's probably one of the most prestigious and well-known business degrees attainable.

 

[ishq]

In Europe, I know from personal experience, striving for success is instilled in young kids from a very very small age, rather that the Australian strive for mediocrity, and the "close enough is good enough" attitude. If you arent intelligent, it is a social stigma.

When i was in year 2, at the tender age of 6, I was doing homework every night (make no mistake, every night) for at least an hour and a half. In year 5 we did the maths that I did here in Australia at the end of year 10. Im talking Russia, btw. As a result an immense portion of the Russian population is highly skilled, unemployed and spends a miniscule portion of their lives in a sober state (hence the age expectancy of approx 59).

In that context, Australia must be doing something right with their education system.

I have to agree with Sphynx here. She has described the Australian Education System perfectly.
However, this very complacent and careless attitude is a bonus, as I am sure you would agree. Russia, like most Asian countries, suffers from overpopulation, underemployement and and a weak infrastructure. Hence, to get anywhere, each student must be drilled from a very tender age.
Since Australia is under none of the above constraints, other talents can be nurtured. For a country home to as many people as Tokyo, our Olympic achievements are magnificient. This is partly because, in primary school, and perhaps up until year 10, such extra-curricular activities (and many others) and encouraged. At the risk of sounding cliched, it is a holistic approach to education.
Having studied abroad for quite some time myself, (though not as much as Sphynx), I am certain of which of the two I prefer.


The only anomaly, of course, being the high standards of English taught...unfortunately...

 

[Emma-Jayde]

Bah, in my class of 5 there's 3 girls 2 guys. We started the year with 7 people, we had 2 other girls, but one left the school and the other dropped cos she had too many units.

 

[Slidey]

I have to agree with Sphynx here. She has described the Australian Education System perfectly.
However, this very complacent and careless attitude is a bonus, as I am sure you would agree. Russia, like most Asian countries, suffers from overpopulation, underemployement and and a weak infrastructure. Hence, to get anywhere, each student must be drilled from a very tender age.
Since Australia is under none of the above constraints, other talents can be nurtured. For a country home to as many people as Tokyo, our Olympic achievements are magnificient. This is partly because, in primary school, and perhaps up until year 10, such extra-curricular activities (and many others) and encouraged. At the risk of sounding cliched, it is a holistic approach to education.
Having studied abroad for quite some time myself, (though not as much as Sphynx), I am certain of which of the two I prefer.


The only anomaly, of course, being the high standards of English taught...unfortunately...

Science, technology, numeracy and literacy are not being nurtured. If the education of students continues down this path, Australia's future will be bleak indeed.

 

[JamiL]

science would be even more pre-historic in australia if it werent 4 the russians goin the space. with education in australia, it is a polotical issue, on who can win more votes, not wots best 4 the children... like Sphyx said, an uneducated child in europe is a stigma on society... that is harsh but at lest they have the priorities right, i no 4 a fact in Lebanon children learn 3 languages (arabic french and english) opposed to the 1 compuslory 1 in australia. they all do maths at the highest level, (this is harder than 4u maths), cumpulosry 2 do all sciences, and humanities. in other words they have no choices, they do every subject, and if they fail just 1 (ie they could get 100% in every subject exept 1 and get 49% in that) and it would require them 2 do the whole Yr 12 again. if they want to go 2 uni, they have 2 work as a cumpusory 1 year of teaching... like a prep course 4 uni. and mind u thins is in the middle of civil war, i have relloz that used 2 be shoot at on their way 2 skool... above all this they dont complain, althou we complain from lack of motivation... pfff our worries seem so superfical compared to other parts of the world, we have it 2 easy

 

[ishq]

Science, technology, numeracy and literacy are not being nurtured. If the education of students continues down this path, Australia's future will be bleak indeed.

I disagree.
Science, technology, numeracy and literacy are being nurtured - and in the right individuals, which is what matters. Had our system not excelled in these, individuals like you, who seek to surpass the syllabus, would not be among us.

This is where the superiority of our education system comes in. Just read (if you can) Jamil's reply

but at lest they have the priorities right, i no 4 a fact in Lebanon children learn 3 languages (arabic french and english) opposed to the 1 compuslory 1 in australia. they all do maths at the highest level, (this is harder than 4u maths), cumpulosry 2 do all sciences, and humanities. in other words they have no choices, they do every subject, and if they fail just 1 (ie they could get 100% in every subject exept 1 and get 49% in that) and it would require them 2 do the whole Yr 12 again. if they want to go 2 uni, they have 2 work as a cumpusory 1 year of teaching... like a prep course 4 uni. and mind u thins is in the middle of civil war, i have relloz that used 2 be shoot at on their way 2 skool... above all this they dont complain, althou we complain from lack of motivation... pfff our worries seem so superfical compared to other parts of the world, we have it 2 easy

Is this what defines education for you? Having to do each and every subject, and not be recognised if you are below average in one? Do you think this very Lebanese education system nurtures talent? When all they regard as 'intelligent' is a child doing 4U Mathematics and the sciences?

The part in bold is pure rubbish.

PS - Slide Rule's signature is starting to scare me!..

 

[JamiL]

I disagree.
Science, technology, numeracy and literacy are being nurtured - and in the right individuals, which is what matters. Had our system not excelled in these, individuals like you, who seek to surpass the syllabus, would not be among us.

This is where the superiority of our education system comes in. Just read (if you can) Jamil's reply



Is this what defines education for you? Having to do each and every subject, and not be recognised if you are below average in one? Do you think this very Lebanese education system nurtures talent? When all they regard as 'intelligent' is a child doing 4U Mathematics and the sciences?

The part in bold is pure rubbish.

PS - Slide Rule's signature is starting to scare me!..

You have got 2 be joking right, out of my whole family( and let me let u no its fukn huge), i and one other person was educated under the australian education have done 4u maths. i have a cuzin in yr 12 who dose 4u english, eco, business, 2u maths, SOR1 and sum ova subject. now that is as far from science as you can get. my sister similarly did english, business, legal, history, and 2u maths, again no science. your comments are as generalised as they get, i have a friend who has been educated in the lebanese system, and says it is alot harder.
do they nuture talents, well i can admitt no, not because of stupid polotics thou, because of war. i said we have it easyer and all we do is complain. why do u think more ethenics(let them be asian, european or indian) do better is skool, because of there influences (ie parents) dont exept avg work

 

[illin]

Girls doing 4U...

Not Many... If Any

(No Im sure there are heaps)

 

[JamiL]

Mathematics Extension 2 in 2004 had 3514 students doin the course of which 2128 were male (61%) and 1386 female (39%) so about 3 males 4 every 2 females do the course
not a big difference

 

[VQ]

Heyyy....the member of our class has "reduced"...

From 12, 6 gurls and 6 boys to 10 ppl, 4 gurls and 6 boys....but....
as what I said b4...dun worry gurls will top our 2nd assess and we'v proved thattt!!! Yihaaa