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Atticus Ryan said:
Anyone who wrote more than one booklet for any question is retarded.

The point of an English exam is not to write and write and write and write buckets and buckets of tripe (which is all it is possible to do if you are writing 34 pages in an exam like some of you retards did). The point of an English exam is to convey your ideas succinctly, logically and with quality of expression.

Why do you think the Board of Studies makes their response booklets 8 pages long? Do you think just maybe it's as a subtle guideline that 8 pages is a maximum for people to write? Just like the ruled lines in a short response question are guidelines for how much you write?

I guarantee none of you idiots who wrote buckets of shit were able to convey your ideas well. You all do not deserve to do well in this exam.
Your an idiot.
You think that just because people wrote alot it automatically means they wrote "tripe".
Again, Your an idiot.

Writing 12 pages of good material is much more likely to get u the 15/15 than 8 pages of good material. Writing more allows for an in depth sophisticated discussion of your texts and how they relate to the journey, rather than just skimming over a few ideas of what the journey is.

Have you ever read the band 6 or examplar responses from the standards package?
They are usually 10-16 pages.
I think this simple fact causes an adequate translation of your post to now be:
"Im an idiot who didnt write many pages and im sour and angry at all the people who did and im going to say they will fail because im a jealous bastard".
 
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michaeln36 said:
Your an idiot.
You think that just because people wrote alot it automatically means they wrote "tripe".
Again, Your an idiot.

Writing 12 pages of good material is much more likely to get u the 15/15 than 8 pages of good material. Writing more allows for an in depth sophisticated discussion of your texts and how they relate to the journey, rather than just skimming over a few ideas of what the journey is.

Have you ever read the band 6 or examplar responses from the standards package?
They are usually 10-16 pages.
I think this simple fact causes an adequate translation of your post to now be:
"Im an idiot who didnt write many pages and im sour and angry at all the people who did and im going to say they will fail because im a jealous bastard".
You are wrong.

You are what is wrong with the world and with society.

Writing 12 pages of "good" material is NOT more likely to get high marks. Writing 12 pages of anything suggests you are not thinking at all and are merely churning out pre-prepared answers, which is NOT what the Board of Studies is looking for. They are looking for responses that are intelligent and that show a great deal of synthesis of knowledge in responding to a specific question.

I would like you to show me a Band 5/6 response that is over 10 pages. I guarantee they do not exist.

I hate you and everything you stand for.

By the way, I am happy to tell you all what I wrote.

For the first section, I wrote 3.5 pages. I answered questions succinctly and well, without waffling or generalising, and I kept to the point.

For the second section, I wrote 4 pages, having written a story that was NOT pre-prepared (as the highly specific stimulus was obviously trying to prevent students from churning out responses they had already written), and which responded to the stimulus and took into account what the syllabus asks you to do. Maybe all you fucking idiots should read the syllabus at some point.

For my essay, I wrote 6 pages. My essay was well-written and contained insightful ideas and stuck to the specific question thhe entire time. I did not waffle. I did not go off-topic. I answered the question.

Please let's all come back here in 2 months and see how we all did in English. I guarantee that fucking tool who wrote 44 pages does not do any better than someone who wrote 14 or 15.
 

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Atticus Ryan said:
You are wrong.

You are what is wrong with the world and with society.

Writing 12 pages of "good" material is NOT more likely to get high marks. Writing 12 pages of anything suggests you are not thinking at all and are merely churning out pre-prepared answers, which is NOT what the Board of Studies is looking for. They are looking for responses that are intelligent and that show a great deal of synthesis of knowledge in responding to a specific question.

I would like you to show me a Band 5/6 response that is over 10 pages. I guarantee they do not exist.

I hate you and everything you stand for.

By the way, I am happy to tell you all what I wrote.

For the first section, I wrote 3.5 pages. I answered questions succinctly and well, without waffling or generalising, and I kept to the point.

For the second section, I wrote 4 pages, having written a story that was NOT pre-prepared (as the highly specific stimulus was obviously trying to prevent students from churning out responses they had already written), and which responded to the stimulus and took into account what the syllabus asks you to do. Maybe all you fucking idiots should read the syllabus at some point.

For my essay, I wrote 6 pages. My essay was well-written and contained insightful ideas and stuck to the specific question thhe entire time. I did not waffle. I did not go off-topic. I answered the question.

Please let's all come back here in 2 months and see how we all did in English. I guarantee that fucking tool who wrote 44 pages does not do any better than someone who wrote 14 or 15.

wow your cool


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just wanted to requote my favourite sections

Atticus Ryan said:
You are what is wrong with the world and with society.
um, ok, nice call

Atticus Ryan said:
I guarantee they do not exist.
im happy you can tell us for sure that not a single person who wrote over 10 pages will get a band 5 or 6

Atticus Ryan said:
I hate you and everything you stand for.
you really know how to make friends dont you

Atticus Ryan said:
I answered questions succinctly and well
and be modest

Atticus Ryan said:
Maybe all you fucking idiots should read the syllabus at some point.
and make more friends

Atticus Ryan said:
My essay was well-written and contained insightful ideas
and be more modest

Atticus Ryan said:
I guarantee that fucking tool who wrote 44 pages does not do any better than someone who wrote 14 or 15.
 
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HAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read, this and the entire bored of studies forum has been one of my grade's biggest source of comedy for the past few days.

On behalf of Baulkham Hills '06 I'd like to say, thank you all.


Now, onto quantity, QUANTITY.DOES.MATTER.


Sure it's not the most important deciding factor, but it's a pre-requisite if you want to go into a sophisticated and in depth analysis. Everybody should be able to write a succinct essay without waffling on, but for the more in depth discussions you should really just write more.

A good standard is 2500--3000 words in 2 hours for paper 1, which requires much less writing than paper 2. This is mainly because quantity is rather irrelevant in creative writing, and aside from the final discriminator, all of section 1 would rather you just briefly and accurately answer the question rather than go in depth.
 

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Oh also Atticus Ryan, your very existence would be a blight upon my emotional well being if I could care enough. What you're saying holds some truth but you're too sure of yourself.

You think lowly of others but you make everybody around you despise everything YOU say and stand for. The way you present yourself makes you a public enemy by default. You're so sure of yourself and your ways that anybody who disagrees with you MUST possess inferior mental prowess. I hope, when the day of the HSC results come, those that you put down and disregard as idiots will come back and laugh in your face.
 

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You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? "Ironing" was me being ironic.

sure sure..ur just trying to cover up ur stupidity.

u do standard english dont u ?

was "ironing" a technique u referred to ?
 

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I am not saying that no-one who writes over 10 pages will not do well. I am saying it is not necessary. I guarantee you that the Board of Studies exemplar answers, however, would not include responses of over 10 pages as this is redundant, wasteful and stupid. Before you requote some of your "favourite" parts of what I am saying, perhaps you should actually read what I am saying and take it into account.

What you have said brings nothing to this discussion. It is not an argument. It is nothing. You are wasting space, time and oxygen in existing. Your witty sarcasm in calling me "modest" is understood - my goal in those comments was to incite others on the board to explain to me how they achieved similar goals by writing 16 pages in an essay as opposed to 6. Please, someone tell me how.

And as for "making friends"? Well being able to argue to such a high level must surely get you marks in English exams! I simply have no comeback to this well-thought-out, critical evaluation of my personality. I am not on this board to make friends, for the simple reason that this board contains people like you. Grow a dick.

As for crazedmo2003, of course quantity matters to some degree. 2500-3000 words is OK. I am talking about idiot people who claim to write 30-50 pages in this exam. I am more than happy to pit my UAI against those who write huge amounts in English exams. My confidence and "superior mental prowess" stems from the fact that I am in fact more intelligent and knowledgeable than most of you on this board. The day that people like Talnoy are able to come back and laugh in my face is the same day that people like sando begin to be able to recognise sarcasm on the Internet. It's a pretty tricky skill, so I am confident that that day will never come. Suck my balls.

Here is my argument, how about someone who isn't a retard like Talnoy tries to argue with me.

It is not necessary to write ridiculously large amounts in an exam to get a good mark. In fact, it will be detrimental to your mark is it is impossible to sustain a coherent and high-level argument if you are writing constantly without time to think.

There it is. How about some people who aren't total morons? I am beginning to doubt the existence of such people on this message board.
 
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Sando: What the hell man? It's quite obviously a joke, and in my opinion pure class. And how about you don't devolve into stereotyping, assumptions and taking cheap pot shots? You affect no one and make yourself a laughing stock.


And once again to Atticus, I don't actually disagree with you, I just have a penchant of charging in guns blazing against people whose tone irked me. Today it was you, who knows what exciting new adventures will happen in the next episode of "Crazedmongoose flames teh interwebs!"


As for 30-50 pages, we must take several things into account.


Words per line. I do 6, my friend does 4, I know some people who do 9. Obviously there's a discrepancy here.

Reading Task: Reading task is not as compact as an essay. I tend to leave an indent to the side for question numbers, start a new page for each text, and have lines seperating seperate responces. At a minimum, the reading task would have taken me 4 pages in this case.

Creative Writing: Formatting and postmodernism here. I wrote 8 pages, but there were literally some lines where I needed to central align to add emphasis or right align or make my words like 3 lines deep. Some people pull all kinds of fancy crap here, doing things side ways, trailing across the page, several line spaces for like three words. And last of all, page numbers in creative writing means NOTHING....or....close to....
 
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sando said:
sure sure..ur just trying to cover up ur stupidity.

u do standard english dont u ?

was "ironing" a technique u referred to ?
Sure, sure... you're just trying to cover up your own stupidity.

You do Standard English don't you?

Was "ironing" a technique that you referred to?

Now that I have translated it, I shall answer your questions and allegations. I was not trying to cover up my own stupidity, I was referring to a well known internet meme "oh the ironing", I do not do standard english and ironing was not a technique I made reference to.
 
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Atticus Ryan said:
I am not saying that no-one who writes over 10 pages will not do well.
I do seem to remember you saying this: "I would like you to show me a Band 5/6 response that is over 10 pages. I guarantee they do not exist." Did you confuse yourself in your intelligent ramblings?

Atticus Ryan said:
As for crazedmo2003, of course quantity matters to some degree. 2500-3000 words is OK. I am talking about idiot people who claim to write 30-50 pages in this exam. I am more than happy to pit my UAI against those who write huge amounts in English exams. My confidence and "superior mental prowess" stems from the fact that I am in fact more intelligent and knowledgeable than most of you on this board.
By chance, do you happen to know that people's handwriting size varies? I wrote 11 pages for the essay, yet it was only 950-1000 words. Someone I know wrote 1400 and managed to write it in the one book.

Your superior mental prowess, eh? Please, I beg you to post your UAI here when you recieve it. Please.
 

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Anybody who wrote more than one booklet for any question is retarded
I would like you to show me a Band 5/6 response that is over 10 pages. I guarantee they do not exist.
I am not saying that no-one who writes over 10 pages will not do well

AHAH!

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"Destory this city of delusion, break the walls down
I will avenge, justify my reasons"
 

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crazedmo2003 said:
Sando: What the hell man? It's quite obviously a joke, and in my opinion pure class. And how about you don't devolve into stereotyping, assumptions and taking cheap pot shots? You affect no one and make yourself a laughing stock.


And once again to Atticus, I don't actually disagree with you, I just have a penchant of charging in guns blazing against people whose tone irked me. Today it was you, who knows what exciting new adventures will happen in the next episode of "Crazedmongoose flames teh interwebs!"


As for 30-50 pages, we must take several things into account.


Words per line. I do 6, my friend does 4, I know some people who do 9. Obviously there's a discrepancy here.

Reading Task: Reading task is not as compact as an essay. I tend to leave an indent to the side for question numbers, start a new page for each text, and have lines seperating seperate responces. At a minimum, the reading task would have taken me 4 pages in this case.

Creative Writing: Formatting and postmodernism here. I wrote 8 pages, but there were literally some lines where I needed to central align to add emphasis or right align or make my words like 3 lines deep. Some people pull all kinds of fancy crap here, doing things side ways, trailing across the page, several line spaces for like three words. And last of all, page numbers in creative writing means NOTHING....or....close to....
Your comments are insightful. I agree with you to some extent - certainly there are cases wherein writing 20 or so pages is acceptable, as you say if one's creative writing piece was very abstract and contained novel formatting etc.

However I still think that many people in HSC exams and in English in particular, write excessively. The goal of English exams in many peoples' eyes, it seems, is to write as much as humanly possible, in an attempt to show that one really does know a large amount of stuff.

I think this is wrong. In my eyes, the goal of an English exam is to answer the questions provided. It is no good going into an exam and spewing out shit that you have learnt. You have to write an intelligent, critical and analytical response to a question. If you are writing 16 pages for an essay, you are not doing that, I don't care what anyone says.

How about people stop coming on the Internet and telling us all how many pages they wrote? Maybe your mothers care. I don't care. If you wrote sixteen pages, there is something wrong with your answer and you know it.
 

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i wrote my 1000 word essay in 12 pages. and i answered the question.

OMGFULSICKROXOR i'm gonna fail! Atticus Ryan i need your help! how do i write less than 10 pages to pass? omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgoomgomgomgogmgomg

you.are.a.twat.


Uni/.
 

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crazedmo2003 said:
AHAH!

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"Destory this city of delusion, break the walls down
I will avenge, justify my reasons"
You misunderstand me. I meant that there are no Standards Packages responses that are over 10 pages because that is not what the Board of Studies wants. I concede that perhaps people who write large amounts of shit may do well, but I still think they are retarded, and that they ought not do well.
 

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Uni said:
i wrote my 1000 word essay in 12 pages. and i answered the question.

OMGFULSICKROXOR i'm gonna fail! Atticus Ryan i need your help! how do i write less than 10 pages to pass? omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgoomgomgomgogmgomg

you.are.a.twat.


Uni/.
So you write 3 1/3 words per line?

Again, you misunderstand me. If you have extenuating circumstances as to why your responses are long, say so. Don't just come on the Internet and tell people "I WROTE TWELVE PAGES WHOA LOOK AT ME". Please scan some of your gigantic, behemoth handwriting so we can all take a look at it.
 

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Atticus Ryan said:
Your comments are insightful. I agree with you to some extent - certainly there are cases wherein writing 20 or so pages is acceptable, as you say if one's creative writing piece was very abstract and contained novel formatting etc.

However I still think that many people in HSC exams and in English in particular, write excessively. The goal of English exams in many peoples' eyes, it seems, is to write as much as humanly possible, in an attempt to show that one really does know a large amount of stuff.

I think this is wrong. In my eyes, the goal of an English exam is to answer the questions provided. It is no good going into an exam and spewing out shit that you have learnt. You have to write an intelligent, critical and analytical response to a question. If you are writing 16 pages for an essay, you are not doing that, I don't care what anyone says.

How about people stop coming on the Internet and telling us all how many pages they wrote? Maybe your mothers care. I don't care. If you wrote sixteen pages, there is something wrong with your answer and you know it.
well hay thur
 

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