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int(f(x))=int((f(a-x))?
That will probably not work, this is beyond HSC difficulty though (but within the scope of the syllabus)

The answer is , it uses recursion in the solution, I can post my one on request

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That will probably not work, this is beyond HSC difficulty though (but within the scope of the syllabus)

The answer is , it uses recursion in the solution, I can post my one on request

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Had a feeling there would be recursion, took me a while to find it:











 
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That will probably not work, this is beyond HSC difficulty though (but within the scope of the syllabus)

The answer is , it uses recursion in the solution, I can post my one on request

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Step back, davo's sol^n is like crazy. Sy did u have to mess around with identities as well or something else?

Alright, while i'm here...
Let t=tan(x/2)







Now casually using partial fractions...



At which point I basically ceebs typing the rest up, but should be integratable now easily.
 

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Step back, davo's sol^n is like crazy. Sy did u have to mess around with identities as well or something else?

Alright, while i'm here...
Let t=tan(x/2)







Now casually using partial fractions...



At which point I basically ceebs typing the rest up, but should be integratable now easily.
Yea his solution was pretty much exact same as mine

As for your solution to this, it is quite long and you will need to evaluate

Here is my solution:

 

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Ah k nice :)

Question: How would you determine value for tan (pi/8)?

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Nvm. Figured it out. You can just split it into tan(pi/4-pi/8) and solve the quadratic.
 
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Can someone pose a new question, on my behalf, please.
 
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Can someone pose a new question, on my behalf, please.
Did not think of that, if you let u=arccot(3x^2) then you end up with a ln? Are both correct?

Also, in regards to the working, derivative of arccotx=negative * 1/1+x^2. So i believe there is a negative missing.
 
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Also, in regards to the working, derivative of arccotx=negative * 1/1+x^2. So i believe there is a negative missing.
You are correct. There should be a negative. When I tentatively started doing it, I thought there ought to be a negative. I then flipped thru 2 text books for the derivative of arccot x - looking out for the '-' sign. Both times I did not see the '-'sign. After seeing your feedback, I rechecked both and there was the '-'sign. How I missed it both times yesterday baffles me. It must mean my glasses are not working as well as I thought.



By the way, if you apply the Chain Rule to [arccot ( (3x^2)]^2 you will get a constant multiple of the integrand. That is you will get:

 
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Epic.

So, If i let u=arctan(3x^2) right, i get sqrt(2)/4 * ln(arctan(3x^2)) which if you derive also get a constant multiple of the integrand, so i assume both are correct.
 

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Epic.

So, If i let u=arctan(3x^2) right, i get sqrt(2)/4 * ln(arctan(3x^2)) which if you derive also get a constant multiple of the integrand, so i assume both are correct.
Where does this 'ln' come from ???
 

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Woops typo, was meant to be arctan(sqrt(2)tan(x)) instead of arctan(1+sqrt(2)tan(x)), typed it on the bus this morning
 
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