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Yes it does. It will be some giant rational number.

We only really talk about 'closed forms' for infinite sums.


This has no nice form I am aware of.

Actually. Ignore that. That's way out of HSC.

Here's something which looks more reasonable.

 

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I think I love the 2nd one lol, looks so ugly but is really easy
I do my best to avoid tedious integrals.

However, tedious integrals are the very first integrals I used to teach myself integration. Without it, I don't think I could integrate by inspection as quickly or as easily as I can today.
 

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Out of curiosity is the first one supposed to be another symmetric substitution lol
 

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For the first one is there another way to do it besides P.Fs otherwise ceebs
 

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Then I got lazy.

But apparently the resulting integral when put into wolfram is neat.
 

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Hint: Double Angle
Lol ok I see it now yep.

But yeah I'll let someone else finish it. I should be doing this assignment but I'm procrastinating
 

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Wow you used wolfram to factorise, they fully factored it. You can't rely on programs to do the math for you cause they don't know all the little tricks
You get 4x^2(1-x^2), take the 4x^2 out the square root
 

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Wow you used wolfram to factorise, they fully factored it. You can't rely on programs to do the math for you cause they don't know all the little tricks
You get 4x^2(1-x^2), take the 4x^2 out the square root
And you're left with (1-x^2) which is still untidy.
 

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The x cancels with numerator and you're left integrating x/sqr(1-x^2) which is a joke
 

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The x cancels with numerator and you're left integrating x/sqr(1-x^2) which is a joke
Still a heck of a lot longer than reversing the double angle expansion of the argument and then integrating by inspection.
 

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And you're left with (1-x^2) which is still untidy.
Also having a 1-x^2 is not untidy as having that on the denominator you should be like Yess!! Cause there are so many ways to integrate that which are all easy
 

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Still a heck of a lot longer than reversing the double angle expansion of the argument and then integrating by inspection.
It takes 2 lines, I don't know if that's a lot longer
 
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