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[tattoodguy]

yes, they were found in a batttle ------------correct.

but is it not reasonable..............that many of them could have beeeen innocent by standers .................or whatever.......................

most of them could be guilty......................probably..

but .....................they deserve a trial...........they deserve the right to defend themselves.......

innocnet ppple shouldnt be locked up........with 3 years..........being abused.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

They do deserve a trial, but when u go to war with a country and get u kno 5000 prisoners it's pretty hard to trial them all...
Especially if ur suggesting trialling them under US law where it could take years for their verdicts...

I dunno, does the UN have a system for THEM to deal with prisoners of war? Because if they do i'd say the right action would be to hand them over to them... set up a common international practice that must be abided by.

 

[joujou_84]

tattoodguy seems to always be pissed off......

 

[soha]

and he uses................so many dots..............dot dot dot..........when he types...........but i actually like it............easier to read..............in a sense.................thats my story........

 

[budj]

Phone tapping, etc has been going on for many a year as someone stated. While i do respect privacy, i value my life as oposed to becomming embarrased. Remember that no one can make you feel infereior without your permission.

Anyway whats going to happen if people hear you talk private to your gf? Nothing. THey dont know you, so they can't really say anything. Hackers do that all the time.

What i am concerned iss that if theis phone tapping service can become corrupted and be of control to other intelligence authorities, with a malicious intent.

 

[tattoodguy]

exactly budj.........


dont just concentrate on the phone tappping....though..............


did the government..........fund a special investigation to destroy pualine hansen? isnt there some like conspiracy or something like that?

ummmmmm its not just about phone tappping its a whole range of things...............non access to lawyers............interrogating ppple using torture etc..................... sleeep deprivation, etc etc etc.....

there serious issues.............and the innocnet will suffer.

 

[OZGIRL86]

oz girl......................number 1........its the principle its direspectful to the diggers we are meant to be a freee nation.

number 2 - people like u are so fucking stupid, loook at guitanimo bay......or whatever...........................heaps of ppple are locked up there with no trials

ppple with ur fucked up attitude allow that sort of thing to happpen. people like you make me sick..............people like you with attitudes like that.....enslave alll of us.. ur weaknessses...............just encouarages our government to grasp for more power............................fuck u.

just like under saddam huisane...........he fucking burns ppples eyes out to make them......................admit to there crimes even when there innocent.......................same as in the fucking prison camps and shit.......in iraq............................at ........whatever that thing is in iraq where americans tortured iraqies..................abu gray or whatever

......you think the p0olice dont kick the doors down of innocent ppples houses..........

did u seee.....that cunt jewl................the fucking dude.....who the US government allleged did the bombing of olypics in america..............they raided his house......and as far as i rememmber........they disclosed stufff like..........he had porn etc..and even worse from memory..........they fcuking embarrased him big time and made him out to be a bad guy.....and fucked up his life-----------and he was innocent.

there are plenty of other ppple like that..........................fucking victims of government.

Oz girl --- ppple like u.......... encourage saddam huisane to torture ppple, you encourage innocent ppple to be imprisoned in guitanomo bay without trial, you
condone inprisoning innocent ppple etc.

With ur fucked up mentality ........................alot of innocent ppple sufffer.

seriously oz girl........if you were innnocent......and the police listened to ur discusssions etc..............about like............u fucking ur bf etc...........u wouldnt like it.................would u like it..if the police videod u fucking ur bf????????............or other things u say to ur bf.......?????...................its private..............................unlesss ................there is very very very strong evidence ............the government should fuck offff.........and mind its own businessss.

If ur out in public with a dildo..in ur pocket...................unlesss u commmit a crime..........that dildo...should remain private.

If ur minding ur own business doing ur own thing............u shouldnt have to ...........be harrased by police......asking......where ur going etc.. etc................

Oz girl............think about other pppple..for a change......and stop thinking just because ur innnocent that makes u immune from being targeted from our government.

screw you tattoodguy .........
you don't like it when someone dosn't agree with you, you have a habit of trying to insult me and calling me names...
you should take a long hard good look at yourself first before insulting others.

 

[biggles04]

screw you tattoodguy .........
you don't like it when someone dosn't agree with you, you have a habit of trying to insult me and calling me names...
you should take a long hard good look at yourself first before insulting others.

I fucking agree, tattoodguy: You are very left winged.
I like Ozgirl because she always has respect for everybody's opinions, no matter how indifferent they are.

tattoodguy, i don't think you should be saying shit like that, your reputation here is seriously dropping.

 

[OZGIRL86]

I fucking agree, tattoodguy: You are very left winged.
I like Ozgirl because she always has respect for everybody's opinions, no matter how indifferent they are.

tattoodguy, i don't think you should be saying shit like that, your reputation here is seriously dropping.

haha he is very left winged.
Thanks biggles
I like you too, your a nice guy who also respects peoples opinions
I look forward to reading more of your posts

 

[Not-That-Bright]

I dunno about left wing... he seems to support the stupidest parts of both sides of politics if u ask me.

 

[tattoodguy]

oz girl ----------- my bad - i wasnt trying to attack u...i dont think i called u any names or really attacked u.

i was just trying to point out that ur atttitude from what i could gather, like ur stance is............let the government do what they want - im innocent so it wont affect me ---

the big flaw in that way of thinking is throught the initiatives that the government is trying to bring about ------------------------alot of innocent ppple are going to be punished.

such at guintanimo bay, abu graid etc ----------------these incidents happened, because ppple believed that the government would act with decency and fairnesss and the innocent would be spared.

but when u are torturing confessions out of the innocent etc etc -----------thats clearly not the case....... the government can not be trusted.



but yeah..my apologies if i strayed from the issues and got personal.

 

[Pace Setter]

There was a tiny little article several months ago in the Sunday Telegraph that explained how a USA soldier in Iraq decided to leave Iraq because he didn't agree with the actions of the US there. Well once he prematurely returned to the US he was sentenced to gaol/jail for one whole year for going against Bush's war effort. If that source was accurate, then I'd say that's a terrible injustice and a heavy violation of any of that "freedom" rubbish they hang onto over there.

I realise the differences between the US and here, but Johnny's best mates with Bush and more often than not thinks along the same lines, wouldnt you say? Don't think it'd be beyond him to use the info. from phone tapping for exposing "criminals" other than just potential terrorists.

Tatooedguy-Maybe it's just me, but absolutely hilarious, scathing attacks on the government in your first few posts on this topic, despite the humour probably being unintentional and the little bit of racism in there.

 

[Enlightened_One]

No racism here, because I ain't racist, and I have aboriginal friends, but I know people who have good reason to be racist:

I know of people who were gang bashed in Newcastle recently, and everyone of the attackers was of aboriginal ethnicity, every single one. They also stole a few things such as phones as a couple of them. Having said that, it's only a few of them, not all, but it is enough to turn people racist. (And then there's those Redfern riots but about them I only know what I heard from the media).

More of that later.

Aboriginies are treated as if they're born deficient by the government. They get funding for their skin colour, which ain't right. They should be treated the same as everyone else. A lot of them may be poor or live in "bad" areas, but they should recieved fudning because of this. All poor people, etc, should recieve the same funding regardless of skin colour.

Giving them benefits because they're black is just seperating us from them, which is almost as bad as racism. The message is sent that if your Aboriginal you need help. So much for self respect.

Above I mentioned things such as a recent violent attack in Newcastle. This sure as hell ain't right, but from the way the media portrays them and the government acts there is the sense that the simply acting the way everyone expects. Which, by the way, is no justification for their acts.

The problem with this country is that people still judge on skin colour, and those of different ehtnicity from the majority (white fellas), don't really seem to see anything wrong with it.

Everyone talks about reconciliation and moving forward etc but until we realise that we're basically all equal, and the only premise we should be judged on is who we really are, then we are simply going to fail.

 

[ogmzergrush]

The problem with this country is that people still judge on skin colour, and those of different ehtnicity from the majority (white fellas), don't really seem to see anything wrong with it.

Hey good to know that seeing as I'm white I don't have a problem with racism! Either that's terribly worded, or you've just done exactly what you're talking about and judged people based on their skin colour.

 

[tattoodguy]

its not that abos are black-- who cares what color they are---it is to do with we stole there land.

 

[Phanatical]

Stole their land? White fellows from 200 years ago occupied a land controlled by aborigines 200 years ago. Who here was around when that happened? WE (as Australians) did nothing. White people's ancestors did.

I refuse to apologise for anything My ancestors did, so why should the white people of this country apologise for "stealing" the land? Also, there is not a single aborigine alive who lost their land with the settlement of white people, so who is there to apologise to?

 

[mmm_sofay]

I heard that the police or some fucking government group can now........................... phone tab, email tap and sms tap .......suspected terrorists communications equiptment without a warrant.

i know people who can tap into peoples keyboards and then they get all thier passwords.
it has nothng to do with this thread, but i just thought that i would state that it is possible to tap into someones jeyboard to get into their emails with out going directly through emails. and since it run through the keyboard, it gets all the things that person who owns has typed.

 

[neo o]

I don't see why an ethnic minority whom fly their own flag should receive any support at all.

 

[Enlightened_One]

Hey good to know that seeing as I'm white I don't have a problem with racism! Either that's terribly worded, or you've just done exactly what you're talking about and judged people based on their skin colour.

Right...What I meant was:

Aboriginal people are given special treatment simply because they're Aboriginal. And they don't complain. They're being singled out, being told they're different, and told that they're incapable of looking after themselves and they need help because of their race. And they don't have a problem with being treated as if they need help simply because of their ethnicity.
So much for equality. They are being treated different because they're Aboriginal and they seem to expect it. This is another form of racism. They are being singled out for their skin colour. It creates rifts and it isn't right.

If they deserve benefits they shouldn't get it because they're Aboriginal, but because they're poor, or from a "bad" neigbourhood etc.

 

[biggles04]

To a Mod:

Please kindly close this topic before it becomes anymore out of hand

Sincerely,
Your friend Biggles