I think I had posted in this thread prior to its recent bumpage/necroing, in which I more or less typed up a nearly endless statement that is ambiguous in point, but also states that the Japanese originate from the Chinese.
Yes, Japanese people are, and so is everything that pertains to them. This is true for all but those Hokkaidō-ans, or whatever they're called; some of them are Ainu, and are seen as pieces of shit, to be frank, in the eyes of "true Japanese" people.
neo o said:
Which form of Chinese would that be? Catonese? Mandarin? Hokkien? One of the other 12 or so dialects?
Shanghainese and Hokkien
and Japanese are quite mutually understandable *ahem, bullshit*. Hokkien/Taiwanese and Shanghainese have their own similarities with the Japanese language, but they are not the same.
appleide said:
You are some left wing- radical... Which isn't all that different to a right-wing radical. Both have prejudices against groups of people. Just because 1 HK, or 1 Taiwanese, or 1 Shanghainese you know claim they are better does NOT mean they all do. You see, its more like urban Chinese looking down on Rural Chinese, instead of particular cities. People from Guang Zhou may potentially just as "elitist" as HK or Shanghai, but Guang Zhou is much smaller, so you don't meet as many people from there. What you are actually describing (and believing) is that the rich are being "elitist" to the poor. The only way this is possible is because there is a big (and growing) income gap between urban and rural Chinese. This is due to the way the chinese gov governed the country (not saying whether that is good or bad). So you could probably call the Communist Party "Capitalist".... Even the Government is more right than you are, Dongle. Prepared to be left behind in a world where political neutrality rules. The world needs balance, my friend. Politically, Environmentally, Economically, Socially.
Uh, yeh.
Okay.
No, at no point in Dongle's post did he explicitly state that he was "some left wing- radical", not even "some left-wing radical", but rather he may have implied that.
Nationalism at a scale of counties is elitism? Oh really? So, would that mean that are, in a sense, fundamentalists who arbitrarily discriminate? Maybe so, but what exactly is your definition of "elitist", which we all seem to have a degree of difficulty in comprehending, and why do you think that this is an accurate term?
Just to restore this topic back on topic: There are three scripts in written japanese. Katakana (spells english words but with japanese chars. eg "orange juice, or hamburger), Hiragana (for words like Mum and Dad and Book), Kanji(Used in sophisticated writings to replace some hiragana, to convey meaning to responders quicker. because hiragana is just alphabet, and convey meaning through pronounciation in conjunction with adjacent characters. (much like English words))
Katakana does not
only spell English words "but with japanese chars."; it, in fact, spells words that are transliterated from foreign languages, not only English, into Japanese characters, with respect to its orthography.
Bendent said:
if they are really so superior they wouldn't feel the need to show it to others.
If that were true, there'd be no need to that post. Think about it.
sigh...what's the point, we are all the same ethnicity.
Excuse me, but hell no. Japanese people are not Koreans, nor would they ever like to be them for whatever ungodly reason, nor Chinese; likewise, Chinese people are not Japanese people or Koreans, as much as they'd like to be the former; and, in the same vein, Koreans will never be Chinese or Japanese until they are owned once more, integrated, or bred-in.
We all know that Japanese people and Chinese people have commonalities, but they have several differences. They look the same, behave the same, or whatever the same, or in the same manner, but that hardly means anything.
Also, Asian does not explicitly mean Chinese, and shouldn't ever be used thusly.
