You see you seem to be using cry in several different manners. Conservative christians are certainly no fan of 'seeing abit of a females skin', this they have in common with many other conservative religions. Since when did a muslim male rape every suggestively dressed girl he saw. I challenge you to produce stats that show that muslims rape a disproportionally high number of women.
- Demanding that McDonalds serve halal Welcome to the free market. If enough people demand it it will be supplied. You don't have to buy it. What do you think macdonalds in muslim countries sell?
what they sell in MUSLIM countries, Is Australia a muslim country? no. And trust me, there is nothing wrong with McDonalds profits right now. Management wouldn't be foolish enough to run the risk of serving halal to win over 1% of our population
I don't understand the point you're making. How is it a risk for McDonalds to sell halal (any more so than to sell anything else new)? McDonalds profits are actually down and heading further south to adress this they will inevitably introduce new lines to generate interest and hence sales. This is a natural product cycle. Why do you think we get chilli 1/4 pounders every now and then? If McDonalds introduces Halal and it does well then it must be good.
The other interesting thing is that halal at maccas would help muslims to integrate (something you seem pretty adamant on) afterall maccas is often pointed to as a bastion of western influence so wouldnt it be good to get muslims in the door?
- Demanding that your shop be open on christmas Well why not? Why should everyone have to celebrate an essentially Christian holiday? Though I'm sure non-christians can enjoy it as a day off.
Because this is a christian nation. You come here, you obey the law and our holidays. It's that simple.
Australia is a christian nation now? Plumetting attendence numbers at Church, secular state it all seems to make sense to me. I'm not suggesting that muslims break the law and work on christmas day - I'm suggesting that they take a day off and chill. Its what I do - I don't deck my house with lights, hoist a tree, pray to jesus and hope santa gets me something nice. Last year I worked Christmas Eve and Boxing day (almost did Christmas as well). Alot of Australia stops for Christmas a big chunk doesn't though. Oh and as a note: I was on a AWA so wasn't getting anything extra for working the public holidays.
- Condoning terrorism which aims to destroy western culture Where did I condone terrorism? Zahid condones resistance to an occupier I explain terrorism. Learn to differentiate.
When you come here you pledge allegiance to Australia and her allies, and that includes America. Justifying the killing of our allies isn't obeying your pledge of allegiance
Again you fail to differentiate; I explain terrorism I do not justify it far less condone it. If you bothered to read my posts in their entirity you would have seen that I explicitly stated that Invading Afghanistan was the right thing to do and that Australia should continue to support the invasion of both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Oh yeah, I never came here. I was born here. I have never taken a pledge of allegiance. Were I to have taken such a pledge it would not bind me to support America. Australia's alliance with America does not bind us to support evrything they say - we are
not a state of the union. Australia does and should support America because it is in our national interest. When it no longer is we should stop. Realism is a bitch.
And to reiterate explaining the killing of our allies is not condoning it. Oh and as a further note I do
not believe that the US should withdraw from Iraq.
- Trying to change our values I have some disturbing news - the values you espouse have not always been present in Australia. Values change over time this is natual and unavoidable
I won't even dignify this with an answer. By your logic, if one believes murder is right because he is tired of letting people live, then he is alright
That is a straw man - read the posting guide. It has absolutely no link with my point. My point was that 'Australian' values change. The values broadly described as Australian have not been constant since federation. Unless you believe them to be solely nationalism and xenophobia.
- Playing your horrible music up to 1,000 decibels so we know where you come from It's already illegal and as much as it must pain you I certainly see alot of bogan-mobiles aussie battler cars with loud music
It's called a hyperbole, get used to it. There's a difference between playing western music and playing islamic music because you're proud of your messed up country that you fled.
Well obviously 1,000 decibels was an exaggeration. At no point though did this influence my response. Your subsequent response did however illustrate the blinding nature of your xenophobia.
- Parading your country's flag all over your car (you are here now -- parade the Australian flag, otherwise LEAVE) I don't know where you pulled this from - the only time I've even seen it is around big soccer games (especially greek and italian). Frankly who would cheer the Soceroos anyway? Do you expect people to ignore the world cup because Australia will never play in it.
Since when is this about soccer? I'm talking about on the back of cars, on 4 wheel drive tyre covers, windows of houses etc
My question so what? What possible effect does it have that someone flys a flag other than Australia's? They live here so obviously they like here better. Actions speak louder than flags.
- Demanding that ham should not be served at council meetings where muslims and jews are present This is about showing respect, something you are clearly adverse to. Only a jerk would intentionally demand ham be served.
I want ham, I eat ham, regardless of who is around me. I don't force muslims to eat on ramadan. What I eat in my own country where they have just arrived is none of their business.
Who said they have just arrived? Heres a news flash jews particularly have been here for quite a while. What you are suggesting is not innocently eating ham unaware that you are sitting between a jew and a muslim it (to borrow your analogy) is more like knowingly waving a slice of ham in front of a jew/muslim and then eating it - with your mouth open.
Next time try and reply to the whole post.
