ITT: We atheists discuss and shoot down Wicca, Jediism but not Christianity (4 Viewers)

[katie tully]

I don't feel any truth beyond myself and I don't find anything particularly amazing about humans that should warrant such a belief. We're an abhorrent species, tbqh and the fact that 6 month old babies can get raped and tortured while your benevolent God looks on sickens me to the point of no return.

Basically, if I am completely wrong and there is a God, I don't want to be associated with him in any shape or form.

 

[JonathanM]

I don't feel any truth beyond myself and I don't find anything particularly amazing about humans that should warrant such a belief. We're an abhorrent species, tbqh and the fact that 6 month old babies can get raped and tortured while your benevolent God looks on sickens me to the point of no return.

Basically, if I am completely wrong and there is a God, I don't want to be associated with him in any shape or form.

Stuff the babies. If there is a God, then he/she created biltong, rooibos tea, portal and youporn through Man. That God must surely be benevolent and kind.

 

[Omie Jay]

pastafarianism's where it's at

 

[Iron]

I don't feel any truth beyond myself and I don't find anything particularly amazing about humans that should warrant such a belief. We're an abhorrent species, tbqh and the fact that 6 month old babies can get raped and tortured while your benevolent God looks on sickens me to the point of no return.

Basically, if I am completely wrong and there is a God, I don't want to be associated with him in any shape or form.

This also leaves me befuddled. Sure suffering exists and God allows it, but Christ Himself was sent to die the most gruesome death imaginable at the time. Would you refuse to acknowledge God because of the supposed cruelty of this supposed indifference? Much grace and love can shine thru similar tragedy, if we only overcome ourselves and trust in Him. Death is not final and faith is not finite. Joy cometh in the morning and Hope in the victory of Life springs eternal

 

[KFunk]

pastafarianism's where it's at

Ramen are far too slippery to achieve any firm grip on reality.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

I fear I'm going to forget to teach my children religion even exists and one day when they're 10 years old they'll be inducted into an evangelical cult due to natural curiosity and no forewarning.

 

[KFunk]

There's no real difference

Only if you're not an agnostic.

 

[katie tully]

hay kfunk ive missed you

 

[SylviaB]

Agnosticism and atheism are not mutally exclusive

 

[Planck]

Only if you're not an agnostic.

Angels dancing on the head of a pin.

 

[KFunk]

Angels dancing on the head of a pin.

Hardly. The agnostic position is of importance in a great number of endeavours. To take a simple example: before undertaking a drug trial to assess the efficacy of a pharmaceutical product it is, in general, inappropriate to believe that a drug works or that it does not work - as either belief may lend itself to harm if a drug is inappropriately harmed or witheld. Rather, one should withold assent to either option until suitable evidence has been collected. Consider also the different questions of whether the number of trees in NSW are even, rather than odd, in number, whether there is a prime between 10^10^10 and 10^10^11, and whether it will rain in Sydney on February 10th 2015. Agnosticism is neither bogus nor some purely theoretical wank which has no place in ordinary life or experience.

 

[Planck]

Hardly. The agnostic position is of importance in a great number of endeavours. To take a simple example: before undertaking a drug trial to assess the efficacy of a pharmaceutical product it is, in general, inappropriate to believe that a drug works or that it does not work - as either belief may lend itself to harm if a drug is inappropriately harmed or witheld. Rather, one should withold assent to either option until suitable evidence has been collected. Consider also the different questions of whether the number of trees in NSW are even, rather than odd, in number, whether there is a prime between 10^10^10 and 10^10^11, and whether it will rain in Sydney on February 10th 2015. Agnosticism is neither bogus nor some purely theoretical wank which has no place in ordinary life or experience.

Your post, whilst informative, is irrelevant to the context in which I based my dispute.

 

[KFunk]

Your post, whilst informative, is irrelevant to the context in which I based my dispute.

Analogy.

 

[katie tully]

ahaha.

 

[KFunk]

hay kfunk ive missed you

P.S. <3. Your Queen of troll counter-trolling always pleases me greatly.

 

[Sultun]

Hardly. The agnostic position is of importance in a great number of endeavours. To take a simple example: before undertaking a drug trial to assess the efficacy of a pharmaceutical product it is, in general, inappropriate to believe that a drug works or that it does not work - as either belief may lend itself to harm if a drug is inappropriately harmed or witheld. Rather, one should withold assent to either option until suitable evidence has been collected. Consider also the different questions of whether the number of trees in NSW are even, rather than odd, in number, whether there is a prime between 10^10^10 and 10^10^11, and whether it will rain in Sydney on February 10th 2015. Agnosticism is neither bogus nor some purely theoretical wank which has no place in ordinary life or experience.

?You do not embrace God when he has shown himself to you (look at the complexity of the eye and tell me it just Popped into existence out of the ass of some monkeys). Your faith is not strong. God is trying to test us (wit the fossils he puts in our rocks), why have you no faith? You will go to hell and burn for eternity if you continue down the path of Satan Hate Worship.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

?You do not embrace God when he has shown himself to you (look at the complexity of the eye and tell me it just Popped into existence out of the ass of some monkeys). Your faith is not strong. God is trying to test us (wit the fossils he puts in our rocks), why have you no faith? You will go to hell and burn for eternity if you continue down the path of Satan Hate Worship.

Um...

a) Monkeys have eyes similar to ours.
b) Many, many other animals (including ones we diverged from a long time ago evolutionarily) have eyes similar to, but more complex and powerful than ours... including many species of monkey. Our eyes, like our physical strength and our sense of smell, have largely devolved in place of our other abilities, mainly mental acumen.

Also, holy shit you just said god put fossils in rocks to trick us. Gotta be a troll.

 

[Planck]

Analogy.

*thins eyes*

 

[Riet]

If there was a christian god muslims wouldnt exist, enough said.

 

[Iron]

What? That's hardly enough said...