Asians found a way to study 4 the umat as well. they just go to medentry and stuff like that.@ lonelywolf : Is an atar brunch so surprising? We ARE a selective school...the only thing that would stand out nowadays is a .95, so not too many 'faggots' would be able to boast about it. And even then, they're pretty modest about it. It's not like the hsc is a test of intelligence. UMAT on the other hand...