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I got x = 1, x = -2 or x = (1 + sqrt5)/2 or x = (1 - sqrt5)/2
 

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Real Madrid said:
Solve:
(x^2-x)^2+(x^2-x)-2=0

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(x^2-x)((x^2-x)-2)=0
(x^2-x-1)(x^2-x+2)=0

Thus, x=0.5(1+sqrt(5)), 0.5(1-sqrt(5)), 0.5(1-i.sqrt(7)), 0.5(1+i.sqrt(7))
Sorry for my solution before.
 
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Real Madrid said:
Solve:
(x^2-x)^2+(x^2-x)-2=0
let m = (x²-x)

m² + m - 2 = 0
(m+2)(m-1) = 0
(x²-x+2)(x² - x -1) = 0

(1) (x²-x+2) = 0
x = 1 +-sqrt[1²-4.2.1]/2
No solution as discriminant < 0.

(2) (x² - x -1) = 0
x = 1+-sqrt[1 + 4.1]/2
= (1+-sqrt5)/2
 

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Real Madrid said:
Solve:
(x^2-x)^2+(x^2-x)-2=0

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As tommykins showed, reduce the equation to a quadratic by making a substitution. That it the safest way to do it I reckon.
 

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Real Madrid said:
Its a challenge in itself. :hammer:
Well, to express my own opinion on this, this is not a challenging question at all once you understand that you can create a separate entity to which x^2-x can be equal to.
 

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Here is a question which I'm sure you'll all enjoy.

Find cos(5x).

Hence find the solutions to
32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0
 

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(cos(x)+i.sin(x))^5
Let c=cosx and s=sinx
(cos(x)+i.sin(x))^5=(c+s.i)^5
= c^5 + 5c^4*s.i - 10c^3s^2 - 10c^2*s^3i + 5c.s^4 + s^5i
cos(5x) = c^5 - 10c^3*s^2 + 5c.s^4
since; s^2=1-c^2
cos(5x) = c^5 - 10c3(1-c^2) + 5c (1-c^2)^2
= 11c^5 - 10c^3 + 5c(1-2c^2+c^4)
= 16c^5 - 20c^3 + 5c
2*cos(5x)=32c^5 - 40c^3 +10c
Let c=x.
2*cos(5x)=32x^5 - 40x^3 +10x
Let 2*cos(5x)= sqrt(3)
Thus, sqrt(3) = 32x^5 - 40x^3 +10x
32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0

LOL, i don't think my solutions correct.
 
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tommykins said:
Here is a question which I'm sure you'll all enjoy.

Find cos(5x).

Hence find the solutions to
32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0
cos(3x+2x)
= cos3xcos2x - sin3xsin2x
= [cos(2x+x) . (cos2x - sin2x)] - [sin(2x+x) . 2sinxcosx]
= [cos2xcosx - sin2xsinx . (cos2x - sin2x)] - [(sin2xcosx + cos2xsinx) . 2sinxcosx]
= {[(cos2x - sin2x) cosx - 2sinxcosx] . [cos2x - sin2x]} - {[2sinxcosx + (cos2x - sin2x) sinx] . 2sinxcosx}

Does some more expanding...

= cos5x - sin2x.cos3x - 2sinx.cos3x - 4sin2x.cos2x + 2sin3.cosx + 2sin2x.cosx

Gets more confused.
 

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bored of sc said:
cos(3x+2x)
= cos3xcos2x - sin3xsin2x
= [cos(2x+x) . (cos2x - sin2x)] - [sin(2x+x) . 2sinxcosx]
= [cos2xcosx - sin2xsinx . (cos2x - sin2x)] - [(sin2xcosx + cos2xsinx) . 2sinxcosx]
= {[(cos2x - sin2x) cosx - 2sinxcosx] . [cos2x - sin2x]} - {[2sinxcosx + (cos2x - sin2x) sinx] . 2sinxcosx}

Does some more expanding...

= cos5x - sin2x.cos3x - 2sinx.cos3x - 4sin2x.cos2x + 2sin3.cosx + 2sin2x.cosx

Gets more confused.
Haha i know, I was a little mean.
 

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tommykins said:
Here is a question which I'm sure you'll all enjoy.

Find cos(5x).

Hence find the solutions to
32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0
cos5x
= Re(cos[x] + isin[x])5
= c5 - 10c3s2 + 5cs4
substituting 1-c2 for s2 and expanding + simplifying gives:
= 16c5 - 20c3 + 5c

32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0
let x = cos[a]
2cos[5a] = sqrt3
cos[5a] = sqrt3 /2 = +-cos[pi/12 +- 2npi)
a = +-pi/60 +-2/5 npi
 

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lolokay said:
cos5x
= Re(cos[x] + isin[x])5
= c5 - 10c3s2 + 5cs4
substituting 1-c2 for s2 and expanding + simplifying gives:
= 16c5 - 20c3 + 5c

32x^5 - 40x^3 + 10x - sqrt3 = 0
let x = cos[a]
2cos[5a] = sqrt3
cos[5a] = sqrt3 /2 = +-cos[pi/12 +- 2npi)
a = +-pi/60 +-2/5 npi
Very well done. Are you currently self teaching 4unit?
 

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