Midwifery UTS (2 Viewers)

[harvey1997]

This post is for a friend but she was wondering how competitive or hard is it to get into midwifery at UTS.

Her ATAR is above the 91.5 cut off (she got 92.7) however does that not guarantee her direct entry?
How hard is it to get into midwifery? do they only allow a certain number of people to gain entry per year??

Also she didnt do a science and only did general maths and standard english. Does this affect her changes of being accepted?


Also for anyone who has done midwifery, how hard is the content?


Thank you!

 

[Silly Sausage]

She is likely to get in however it really depends on course popularity and midwifery seems to be very popular at UTS. Her subjects will not effect her chances of getting in. The *guaranteed* entry is 94.50 bit I'd say she has good chance given her competitive atar.
Midwifery will have subjects which involve biology/anatomy but the only assumed knowledge is any 2u of English but they do recommend any 2u of science/maths.

 

[futuremidwife]

For more employment options, I suggest getting into Nursing (3 YEARS) THEN Diploma of Midwifery (1 YEAR).

Essentially, its 2 degrees in 4 years, and she will be able to work in both maternity wards, and general nursing departments. She's more employable that way. That's what I'm doing

But, yeah with an ATAR of 92.7 she's highly likely to get in!

 

[harvey1997]

she says thank you so much for your responses!

she was also wondering if it is possible to do the 3 years midwifery and then 1 year of nursing? like do midwifery first and then nursing in some way?

Thanks

 

[Silly Sausage]

she says thank you so much for your responses!

she was also wondering if it is possible to do the 3 years midwifery and then 1 year of nursing? like do midwifery first and then nursing in some way?

Thanks

Glad we helped

tbh I'm not too sure since their diploma of adv nursing at UTS is available to Bachelor of nursing graduates only iirc. She could probably do a dip of nursing somewhere else afterwards whether at another uni or TAFE.
Nourah would probably know though

 

[futuremidwife]

she says thank you so much for your responses!

she was also wondering if it is possible to do the 3 years midwifery and then 1 year of nursing? like do midwifery first and then nursing in some way?

Thanks

Nope, I don't think she will be able to do that. If she wants do something similiar to that she can complete a B Midwifery at either UTS or UWS (3 YEARS) then complete a B Nursing (Fast Track, 2 YEARS) at the Univeristy of Tasmania. There is a campus here in Sydney, Rozelle. However, thats an additional year compared to the Nursing THEN Midwifery pathway.

I recommend her getting all the basic nursing stuff first, then specialise in Midwifery!

 

[futuremidwife]

An even better course for her is the Health Science/Masters Nursing @ USYD (80.55 ATAR)

Health Science is an addtional degree, that will also make her more employable. Its 4 years, with 2 degrees and a Masters qualification. She can then do Midiwifery at UTS or UWS for a year after that. So, 3 degrees in 5 years!

 

[futuremidwife]

Future midwife here to answer all of your questions.

Her ATAR is above the 91.5 cut off (she got 92.7) however does that not guarantee her direct entry?

With bonus points such as band 5 in ADV English, she’s guaranteed entry.

How hard is it to get into midwifery?

If she has met the cut-off (which she has) it isn’t difficult.

Do they only allow a certain number of people to gain entry per year?
Yes. This applies to all courses. They only accept a certain number every year.

Also she didnt do a science and only did general maths and standard english. Does this affect her changes of being accepted?

Nope, not at all! It is “recommended”. The information she needs will be in textbooks, and lectures and all that.

Also for anyone who has done midwifery, how hard is the content?

Like any other degree, it will not be easy. However, the great thing about Midwifery is that it is very narrow and very focussed on one particular thing, unlike Nursing or Medicine which is broad. It focuses on pregnancy, and womens health.

 

[brent012]

An even better course for her is the Health Science/Masters Nursing @ USYD (80.55 ATAR)

Health Science is an addtional degree, that will also make her more employable. Its 4 years, with 2 degrees and a Masters qualification. She can then do Midiwifery at UTS or UWS for a year after that. So, 3 degrees in 5 years!

More degrees does not mean more employable, I know nothing about nursing/midwifery but from my understanding it's a very practical field which would make that even more true.

 

[futuremidwife]

More degrees does not mean more employable, I know nothing about nursing/midwifery but from my understanding it's a very practical field which would make that even more true.

Yes, this is very much true. My suggestion was simply that health science can coincide perfectly well with nursing, and can provide even more employment options.

 

[harvey1997]

THANKS SO MUCH NOURAH, SILLY SAUSAGE AND BRENT 012 she is so happy you guys responded to my post! she has gained more insight into her eligibility for the course and what it will be like, so thank you!

As the guaranteed entry for midwifery is 94.5 which includes subject bonus points offered at UTS and EAS scheme, she is worried she will not be able to get in! There are heaps of subjects offered for bonus points (e.g. bio, chem, mathematics, advanced english etc) however she did not do any of them for her hsc so she is worried that people who may have got a 92 atar and then received subject bonus points (e.g. 3) will be have guaranteed entry and thus limiting her chance of being accepted i heard that one year UTS only accepted 70 people and another year they only accepted 30 which is so scary! does anyone know of anyone who got an atar similar to my friend and got accepted into midwifery at UTS?

thanks again for your replies!

 

[futuremidwife]

THANKS SO MUCH NOURAH, SILLY SAUSAGE AND BRENT 012 she is so happy you guys responded to my post! she has gained more insight into her eligibility for the course and what it will be like, so thank you!

As the guaranteed entry for midwifery is 94.5 which includes subject bonus points offered at UTS and EAS scheme, she is worried she will not be able to get in! There are heaps of subjects offered for bonus points (e.g. bio, chem, mathematics, advanced english etc) however she did not do any of them for her hsc so she is worried that people who may have got a 92 atar and then received subject bonus points (e.g. 3) will be have guaranteed entry and thus limiting her chance of being accepted i heard that one year UTS only accepted 70 people and another year they only accepted 30 which is so scary! does anyone know of anyone who got an atar similar to my friend and got accepted into midwifery at UTS?

thanks again for your replies!

Tell her to call UTS to see how much bonus points she is ellgible for. With an ATAR of 92.7, she must've had a band 5 in English though? If not, then she should just put UTS first then UWS - which also has a great midwifery program. She is highly likely to get in, partircularly when, from my understanding, UTS save spots in all of the degrees for EAS applicants.

Good luck, and tell her to come to the open day on the 6th with all her questions - they are better equppied in answering her questions!

 

[harvey1997]

She did standard english and they only offer bonus points for advanced english which sucks!

Okay i will tell her to do that!
Thanks Nourah

 

[brent012]

I wouldn't worry about it, the guaranteed entry ATARs are made ridiculously high. Previous years cut offs are a far better indicator, unless you have heard something about positions being increased/decreased for this year.

Also, I should probably clarify that when I said more degrees does not mean better employment - that was more about doing that option with the 3 degrees just for the sake of having all those degrees. But maybe the 3 + 1 nursing and then post grad midwifery is the better option. (im sure nourah has researched it)

 

[jl312]

Hi Harvey1997,


I studied the BMidwifery at UTS in 2014 as a school leaver

The guaranteed ATAR is a way to assure those who surpass it (including bonus points) that they will receive an offer. It doesn't necessarily mean you can't get an offer if you don't achieve the mark! My ATAR was 79, I got bonus points for EAS, and Adv. English Band 5 + Ext 1 English E3.

The course itself is a mix of full time and part time students, and I think about 80 were offered places. We were told over 300 applicants missed out - so yes it is a popular course, and the ATAR rises as it increases in popularity each year.

I only did Biology for prelim, and no science for HSC - but the Anatomy and Physiology subjects were accessible even without the HSC science background.

Another thing to note is the course is full of mature age students, a wide mix of people (and all women). School leavers are actually a minority.

The content can be difficult but it all comes together on placement in the hospital - the lecturers are great and get to know the students well. There's a lot of essays as opposed to exams, which suited me well. The textbooks are fairly inexpensive considering they're relevant throughout the whole course & beyond.

However this course requires a great amount of dedication, you are on-call for births, which saw me up at all hours of the night driving over to the hospital for a birth! A licence and car comes in handy.


About the grad-dip, you do 3 years B Nursing, then you have to apply for a job in a hospital as a Midwifery student BEFORE you can apply to do the course. It's also 12 months of full-on, completing the same work in one year as the Bachelor of Midwifery completes over 3 years. Some say the most stressful year of their life!

Unfortunately the part-time option has been cut starting 2015 for the BMid at UTS.


Hope this is helpful!!

 

[futuremidwife]

Hi Harvey1997,


I studied the BMidwifery at UTS in 2014 as a school leaver

The guaranteed ATAR is a way to assure those who surpass it (including bonus points) that they will receive an offer. It doesn't necessarily mean you can't get an offer if you don't achieve the mark! My ATAR was 79, I got bonus points for EAS, and Adv. English Band 5 + Ext 1 English E3.

The course itself is a mix of full time and part time students, and I think about 80 were offered places. We were told over 300 applicants missed out - so yes it is a popular course, and the ATAR rises as it increases in popularity each year.

I only did Biology for prelim, and no science for HSC - but the Anatomy and Physiology subjects were accessible even without the HSC science background.

Another thing to note is the course is full of mature age students, a wide mix of people (and all women). School leavers are actually a minority.

The content can be difficult but it all comes together on placement in the hospital - the lecturers are great and get to know the students well. There's a lot of essays as opposed to exams, which suited me well. The textbooks are fairly inexpensive considering they're relevant throughout the whole course & beyond.

However this course requires a great amount of dedication, you are on-call for births, which saw me up at all hours of the night driving over to the hospital for a birth! A licence and car comes in handy.


About the grad-dip, you do 3 years B Nursing, then you have to apply for a job in a hospital as a Midwifery student BEFORE you can apply to do the course. It's also 12 months of full-on, completing the same work in one year as the Bachelor of Midwifery completes over 3 years. Some say the most stressful year of their life!

Unfortunately the part-time option has been cut starting 2015 for the BMid at UTS.


Hope this is helpful!!

OMG HOW!

I got 86.25, and I got a band 5 in English. SWS disadvantaged too! And I had EAS!

 

[Ethicks]

OMG HOW!

I got 86.25, and I got a band 5 in English. SWS disadvantaged too! And I had EAS!

ATAR isn't everything, if you work hard you can get into any degree. With a poor ATAR you can pick whatever university(assuming your ATAR is good enough to get into any), do whatever degree and transfer it's really not hard.

 

[futuremidwife]

ATAR isn't everything, if you work hard you can get into any degree. With a poor ATAR you can pick whatever university(assuming your ATAR is good enough to get into any), do whatever degree and transfer it's really not hard.

Oh, that's what I was planning to do since I couldn't get in directly through my ATAR.

I changed my career path since that post actually lol.

 

[Ethicks]

Oh, that's what I was planning to do since I couldn't get in directly through my ATAR.

I changed my career path since that post actually lol.

Are you not aiming for/doing Midwifery? If you let an ATAR stop you then that's a real shame..

 

[futuremidwife]

Are you not aiming for/doing Midwifery? If you let an ATAR stop you then that's a real shame..

No no, not at all! I keep tossing between career paths tbh.