Minimum/Maximum Penalty for Child Rapists? (1 Viewer)

[darek_arsenal]

A crime against the freedoms and liberty of a person is the most severe of crimes.
A crime against a child is even worse.

Rehabilitation is unlikely, re-integration is risky and retribution is probable.

Answer = Life.

good view

 

[ElendilPeredhil]

Life for rape of a child 12 and under. (Unless extenuating circumstances, offender thought child was 16 etc.) Death penalty if offender re-offends, or has any previous sexual OR Violent convictions.

For molestation that doesn't include rape...cutting off their right hand(if they are right handed) and/or castration.

 

[_dhj_]

Castration is just barbaric - something that shouldn't be inflicted for any crime, and life seems a bit long relative to sentences for other crimes in Australia.

 

[P_Dilemma]

I think the current lengths of sentences are good enough already. I think the major problem is that the court procedure takes SO DAMN LONG!!!

Personally, i don't think castration will be acceptable. As someone mentioned earlier, they probably wouldn't respond to that kind of "punishment" the same way as, ahem, normal people would.

-P_D

 

[ElendilPeredhil]

Castration is just barbaric - something that shouldn't be inflicted for any crime, and life seems a bit long relative to sentences for other crimes in Australia.

It's not like you lie down and someone chops your bits off with an axe...they are surgeically removed whilst you are under anaesthetic...and it's not so much a punishment as a prevention...they can't rape anymore! yeah for child rapists, castration. and a very long sentence...I think I'd let them be released at the end of their 30 year sentence if they were castrated...

What's wrong with life sentences? Personally I think it should apply to murderer's too (first degree murder) and serial killers and all the other trash we keep in gaol for ever...like Ivan Milat.

 

[_dhj_]

It's not like you lie down and someone chops your bits off with an axe...they are surgeically removed whilst you are under anaesthetic...and it's not so much a punishment as a prevention...they can't rape anymore! yeah for child rapists, castration. and a very long sentence...I think I'd let them be released at the end of their 30 year sentence if they were castrated...

What's wrong with life sentences? Personally I think it should apply to murderer's too (first degree murder) and serial killers and all the other trash we keep in gaol for ever...like Ivan Milat.

That's not the point. No one should have to have their body intentionally mutilated by the justice system, no matter what they've done.

 

[JaredR]

Do they get to keep their penis in a jar with sterile solution?

Just wondering...

Okay sorry. Off topic.

 

[ElendilPeredhil]

That's not the point. No one should have to have their body intentionally mutilated by the justice system, no matter what they've done.

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree because I think that this is an excellent form of justice, and would be appropriatly administered by the justice system.

 

[_dhj_]

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree because I think that this is an excellent form of justice, and would be appropriatly administered by the justice system.

In principle this sort of punishment would be extended - after all, what makes paedophilia so different from any other horrible crime? If that was the case, we could also say that someone who stomped a person to death should have her feet cut off, and that a person who has stabbed another should have his hand cut off etc. We might aswell go back to the Dark Ages.

 

[dieburndie]

I think castration is bad, but then I think about what a paedophile actually does, and any action to stop them doing that again seems justifiable. I mean dont these people forfeit any right to any sort of sexuality by forcefully having sex with children?

 

[ur_inner_child]

What I'm about to say might be pretty naive, but I don't know much about how paedophiles think anyway:

Castration means they can't engage in particular sexual activities with children anymore... or they can't relieve themselves... It doesn't mean they won't think dirty thoughts and won't touch the child. A paedophile is still able to use force, as well as use their hands?

Although I realise castration is for punishment, not prevention... but then that seems... pointless in some degree. Punishment was always meant to be used in the belief that a person could change their ways.

For Child rapists, we lock them up for prevention causes moreso than punishment.... don't we?

 

[dieburndie]

What I'm about to say might be pretty naive, but I don't know much about how paedophiles think anyway:

Castration means they can't engage in particular sexual activities with children anymore... or they can't relieve themselves... It doesn't mean they won't think dirty thoughts and won't touch the child. A paedophile is still able to use force, as well as use their hands?

Although I realise castration is for punishment, not prevention... but then that seems... pointless in some degree. Punishment was always meant to be used in the belief that a person could change their ways.

For Child rapists, we lock them up for prevention causes moreso than punishment.... don't we?

Yes, but castration eliminates the production of testosterone, greatly reducing sex drive, or completely eliminating it. It doesn't mean they won't abuse children anymore, but will greatly reduce their desire to in order to fulfill any sexual urge. So to some degree at least, it is prevention.

 

[ElendilPeredhil]

In principle this sort of punishment would be extended - after all, what makes paedophilia so different from any other horrible crime? If that was the case, we could also say that someone who stomped a person to death should have her feet cut off, and that a person who has stabbed another should have his hand cut off etc. We might aswell go back to the Dark Ages.

It doesn't necessarily follow that because this type of punishment is implemented for paedophilia, that further Dark-Age type punishments will be dealt for other crimes.

What makes paedophilia different from other crimes is that it is practiced on a child.

 

[ur_inner_child]

It doesn't necessarily follow that because this type of punishment is implemented for paedophilia, that further Dark-Age type punishments will be dealt for other crimes.

What makes paedophilia different from other crimes is that it is practiced on a child.

as with murdering a child *shrugs*

oh and dieburndie, good work, I stand corrected.

 

[lengy]

Paedophiles and those that do violent crimes against women are apparently kept in a separate section of the prison from general population. Mate says that this is because the bikies would kill them within the day. The are given the term 'rockspider' from the phrase 'between a rock and a hard place' and the 'spider' being the only thing that can get under a rock hence the lowest of the low.

 

[sam04u]

I think more psychology is needed to determine how these thoughts are developed. My theory is that men and women (usually men) who fantasise at a young age of (younger women) could end with the mentality which constitutes that of a pedophile. By imprinting mentally 'what is sexually attractive'.

Surprisingly, this means pornography is beneficial for teens at arounf 13? (as they become more exposed to a 'fuller' figured women.)

Prevention is much greater than punishment.



After thought: It would be worse for children younger than 13.
(It seems to be a worse problem in men then women)