Ditto.emiliieee said:p-plater restrictions suckkkkkk
I agree with the majority of ur post, however i must point out that u are wrong here. studies have shown that u (both p platers and full license holders) are more likely to crash when u have another peer in ur car. The liklihood increases with each person who hops into the car. The idea behind this new law is that p platers are not as experienced as other drivers and thus the peer influence will have more of an effect.Just because 5 teenagers crammed into a car and crashed does not mean limiting passenger number will prevent this, it merely reduces the victim count.
Amen to that.the only real thing to do now that would have a significant impact is a driver training course
it shytes ppl like me. I cannot see the value in this new law considering in qld u dont even have to display ur plates. I guess its just a way of getting money out of us....I recon the new law that you have to display your p-plates externally is going to shyte alot of people and get more ppl fined over it.
log books are different - u can fudge figures to say u've learnt skills and had experience which u havent.driver training isn't going to do all that much IMO, it's the same as the Learner logbook - it's too easily rorted or abused or whatever.
Lol wtf. How can you rort a driver training course... if you dont do it, you dont for example get the signature etc from the guy running it. The L's are easy to rort cos mummy will sign it regardless. Not the case in training courses. They would have a massive effect, not only in preventing sticky situations in the first place as people will know the limits of their cars but also teaching them the skills that every young driver lacks, which are how to react in an emergency situation.Yeah but in Queensland are there speed and BAC restrictions on Provisional Drivers? This was mentioned a while ago but driver training isn't going to do all that much IMO, it's the same as the Learner logbook - it's too easily rorted or abused or whatever
Lol the cops are already stretched, I highly doubt this is a practical solution... not only would it mean alot more cops are needed (costing more money... more then it would be to subsidise a driver training course!), it wouldnt have that much effect as cops cant be on every cm of road giving people the opportunity to do something stupid and govts like Queensland already have in place shyteloads of undercover cars of every make and model, yet they are having the same problem as NSW. From a cost benefit point of view, this would be the worst 'solution'.The only effective way to reduced the road toll is to have more police on the roads and to make them covert. If drivers know that ALL or even most Highway Patrol vehicles are unmarked then they are far less likely to drive negligently.
having so many undercover cars pulling people over for minor infractions is an abuse of power. Its easy for rapists to pull people over under the pretense of being an undercover cop [and actually some states in america made legislation to prevent undercover cops pulling people over]The Brucemaster said:Yeah but in Queensland are there speed and BAC restrictions on Provisional Drivers? This was mentioned a while ago but driver training isn't going to do all that much IMO, it's the same as the Learner logbook - it's too easily rorted or abused or whatever. The only effective way to reduced the road toll is to have more police on the roads and to make them covert. If drivers know that ALL or even most Highway Patrol vehicles are unmarked then they are far less likely to drive negligently.
Which is risk taking essentially, if your aware of the consequences you dont take risks...The reason why p-platers get injured more often is because they don't understand how easy it is to die/get injured.