Questions about studying EDU for uni? (1 Viewer)

[addoil]

1. What does it mean by Bachelor of Education/Bachelor of Arts -- is that a double degree, and do you have to major in a particular subject in the Arts degree? If so, what type of options are there to major in?

2. If I want to teach in Secondary school and do a degree such as Bachelor of Education (Secondary), does that mean I have to major in something? Ie. have to study eg. B Ed (Secondary: Mathematics), meaning I can teach Maths in high school once I graduate?
What if I just do a B Ed (Secondary), what areas can I teach?

3. If I do B Ed/B International Studies, does that mean I can teach in another country? If so, what school level can I teach?

4. If I complete a Masters of Education, what advantages/jobs does this allow me? Does it mean I can become a Principal/Deputy Principal/Head teacher of a subject ???

5. What is the difference between Bachelor of Education and DIPLOMA of Education?

6. I am thinking of studying at UTS to teach secondary school, however on their site I read that they only offer the Primary Ed, Adults Ed and Organisational Learning courses for UNDERGRADUATES. While the Secondary Ed is listed under its POSTGRADUATE course as a accelerated course that takes only 1 year... however it also says that you must major in something which usually takes 3 years....

A--Does that mean I HAVE to study one of those undergraduate courses (eg. Primary Ed) before I can do the Secondary Ed course? If so, does that mean I can teach both primary AND highschool once I graduate both courses?
B--For those who have studies the secondary course@UTS, is it true that this course ONLY takes 1 year (full time) and you can major in a subject (eg. maths or science) and teach that subject after you graduate??


5. What other options/universities do I have/could consider in studying Education??




Sorry for all the questions, thanks!

 

[Peeik]

1. Yes it is a double degree. You will be doing an education degree AND an arts degree simultaneously that will last 5 years (usyd) or 4 years (unsw). As a high school teacher you can pick up to 2 teaching areas, namely a major and a minor. So you can be a english teacher (english major) but also be qualified to teach history (history minor).

2. I have not heard of a degree that is just "B Ed (Secondary)". The best indication is to see if that degree is combined with an arts or science degree. If it is B.Ed/B.Arts, then this is the degree for english, hist, drama, lote (etc) teachers. If it is a B.Ed/B.Sci, then this is the degree for math or science teachers.

3. Not sure about this, you need to ask the uni career advisors (or even your school career advisor). But even if you graduate from a B.Ed/B.Arts degree, you can teach overseas because it is a internationally recognised degree.

4. A Masters in Teaching will have no affect on your job prospects or pay in australia. If you plan to teacher overseas, a masters degree will determine pay and job opportunities. If you want to be a principal, a masters degree wont be neccesary in aust.

5. A diploma is a one year program that qualifies you to teach in schools. You generally dont see people in this era doing a dip. ed. because employers prefers degrees nowadays. But nonetheless, you can still do a dip ed and be able to teach in aust.

6. Once again, im not too sure about this. But i think you need to do either an arts degree or a science degree and major in a field e.g. english or maths. An arts/science degree will last 3 years. After this, you do your post grad in the Secondary Ed course and then you will be able to teach.

7 (or 5 as you have written). There are many ways in which you can get credentials to be able to teach in aust. It would be more helpful if you explained which subject srea you would like to teach but basically you can get your education degree at usyd, unsw, uts, newcastle and wollongong university. You can do the following:

Double degree: -Bachelor of education (sec: mathematics/science/arts)/Bachelor of science/arts.
- 5 years at usyd......4 years in other unis
- If you do it at usyd, you get paid a higher minimum salary if you work in DET schools.

Dip. ed: - You must first complete a B.Arts or B.Science and major in a subject (usually takes 3 years).
- Then you would do a Dip.ed that should take one year.

Masters in Teaching: -You must first complete a B.Arts or B.Science and major in a subject (usually takes 3 years)
-Then do a 2 year master degree at usyd ( i think only usyd offers a masters degree).
- Your pay will be the same as those who do the double degree.

 

[Lukeage]

Very late response to point #2 but FYI, QUT's Education degrees are all currently awarded as single degrees... BEd (Secondary), BEd (Primary) etc. BUT I have never heard of this anywhere else. You do also specialise in 2 teaching areas within that.

 

[Runningup]

Is it better to have a double degree for e.g.

Bach of ed/ Bach of Sci

OR

A Bach and masters

Bach of Science (mathematical science)/ masters in teaching.

 

[AsyLum]

I'm going to pull up this: 5. A diploma is a one year program that qualifies you to teach in schools. You generally dont see people in this era doing a dip. ed. because employers prefers degrees nowadays. But nonetheless, you can still do a dip ed and be able to teach in aust.

No that's bullshit, and you'll find that it's just as valid as an education degree. The naming of a degree is a marketing ploy by universities as Australia has some perverse need to justify their choices, a B Education will be just as valid as a B Arts/Dip Ed, as well as a Grad Dip Ed. The teaching qualifications are recognised by an external body to the universities and thus have no care what your degree is called, but simply whether that degree fulfills the requirements they set out.

And also in terms of pay, it has nothing to do with the institution but rather how many years you've been at university studying, so don't pay attention to that.