Rudd to allow universities to force students to pay union "fees" (1 Viewer)

[Kwayera]

What fuck the

 

[greeklegend]

Why the hell would Joyce cross the floor on this? It's not something that will get him truckloads of extra votes in Queensland the way voting against selling telstra would have. He won't pick a fight with his party if it doesn't give him an electoral benefit.

 

[Lentern]

Why the hell would Joyce cross the floor on this? It's not something that will get him truckloads of extra votes in Queensland the way voting against selling telstra would have. He won't pick a fight with his party if it doesn't give him an electoral benefit.

He couldn't possibly vote for the bill on it's merrits could he?

 

[greeklegend]

He couldn't possibly vote for the bill on it's merrits could he?

Besides the point, surley.
He'll vote for it because it's not one of the battles he wants to fight with his party

 

[jb_nc]

Why the hell would Joyce cross the floor on this? It's not something that will get him truckloads of extra votes in Queensland the way voting against selling telstra would have. He won't pick a fight with his party if it doesn't give him an electoral benefit.

Why did he cross the floor on the original bill for VSU?

 

[greeklegend]

He did?
I'll eat my words then. Evidently farmers in QLD who vote national DO care about VSU

 

[PrettyOddProlix]

Aw, this is shit. It reeks of a failing government and AIDS.

 

[Iron]

This is a blatant fucking tax on lowly students because the government cbf paying for all the implications of their equal access bullshit. Why the fuck should I fund the China club? Why should I fund some redneck's counselling because regional assistance to his 60uai means that he's now having issues keeping up with a course of an 80cutoff? FFS. You think you're getting ahead, but they just drag you back into the muck. It's a joke. If students genuinely wanted a sense of community on campus, they'd be motivated to forge it themselves. As it stands, we just want our degree like a burger, and then want to gtfo

 

[Iron]

Yeah, it's a massive joke to even suggest that university isnt an elite institution. Under this equality junk, we basically pretend that all hsc graduates have a right to a tertiary education, and campus subsequently devolves into the mindless quest for a fuck, a beer, and an easy marker. They come in here, riding a wave of their own spew, demanding all sorts of facilities that have nothing to do with university, because they have nothing to do with university. It's a corporation, oriented around how to package a product which best pleases the braindead drones of hsc graduates. Not only do they get anything worthy out of it, but they drown the bright 10% in their dullness, and convert them to the weak and petty goal of personal enrichment in business/marketing endevours
Dont you see! We've given up on the quest for Truth -universal truth -in place of "journeys" and individual fullfillment! The entire university framework today is a farce, a cruel joke. It all ended with the 60s imo, we're just pretending it didnt

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Writing a letter to fielding and Xenophon now

UH OH!

 

[zstar]

Yeah, it's a massive joke to even suggest that university isnt an elite institution. Under this equality junk, we basically pretend that all hsc graduates have a right to a tertiary education, and campus subsequently devolves into the mindless quest for a fuck, a beer, and an easy marker. They come in here, riding a wave of their own spew, demanding all sorts of facilities that have nothing to do with university, because they have nothing to do with university. It's a corporation, oriented around how to package a product which best pleases the braindead drones of hsc graduates. Not only do they get anything worthy out of it, but they drown the bright 10% in their dullness, and convert them to the weak and petty goal of personal enrichment in business/marketing endevours
Dont you see! We've given up on the quest for Truth -universal truth -in place of "journeys" and individual fullfillment! The entire university framework today is a farce, a cruel joke. It all ended with the 60s imo, we're just pretending it didnt

Once the left have their way they'll not only guarantee free university education but free university degree's too.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

man that'd be so rotten

 

[PrettyOddProlix]

Once the left have their way they'll not only guarantee free university education but free university degree's too.

Someone needs to stop this before it gets out of hand.
This is bullfuck!

No to socialism, much less Communism.

 

[withoutaface]

Using the word maverick a bunch for Xenophobe

talking about values and shit for Fielding

Talk about your involvement with Christian groups on campus and how the UNSW bible study has weathered the VSU storm and come back stronger than ever.

 

[nisseltaria]

I wish Universities still had the same degree of proper elitism about them that they once did

Exactly what air of elitism do you want in your campus?
The kind of elitism that we had, where only the rich and the extremely lucky even had the chance to apply? Or the kind that has never existed in Australia, where only the very bright may enter?

 

[PrettyOddProlix]

This is silly; those who use whatever facilities should pay for them.

charging as much as $600 per student.

 

[Rafy]

Talk about your involvement with Christian groups on campus and how the UNSW bible study has weathered the VSU storm and come back stronger than ever.

what is likely to happen to the usu access program?

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Fuck i cant believe this shit.
Fucking wanker!
I knew labor would pull this shit they didnt have our vote
Srsly, I ALREADY PAY UNI FEES FOR MY JOB WHICH ILLL LOSE TO GO TO UNI ARGHHGDGFHDFKGDFHG FUCKERS

it'll all go on a hecs loan anyway. stop being a cunt

 

[Leo 100]

Fuck i cant believe this shit.
Fucking wanker!
I knew labor would pull this shit they didnt have our vote
Srsly, I ALREADY PAY UNI FEES FOR MY JOB WHICH ILLL LOSE TO GO TO UNI ARGHHGDGFHDFKGDFHG FUCKERS

good god u need to relax
its not rudds fault

 

[withoutaface]

what is likely to happen to the usu access program?

Uncertain. Depending on how much of the fee the unversity actually gives the USU ACCESS cards may become free, or the current system may remain.