MedVision ad

significance of 'c' (1 Viewer)

clever angel

Member
Joined
Aug 24, 2003
Messages
240
Location
sydney
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
hi ppl,

cna someone plzzz tell me what to write 4 this dot pt.

describe the significance of Einstein's assumption of the constantcy of the speed of light?
 

wanton-wonton

Active Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2004
Messages
1,415
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Einstein’s second postulate states that the speed of light in empty space always has the same value, c (3 × 108 m s-1), independent of the motion of the observer. In the thought experiment, Einstein realised that if both observers were to see the same speed of light, and since speed = distance/time, then the distance and time witnessed by both observers must be different.

In other words, if c is constant, then space(length)-time is relative, so to fully define where something is, 3 coordinates of space and time is required.
 

Slidey

But pieces of what?
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
6,600
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
3? Even thought there exists 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimensional (So far, heh)?

3+1=4?
 

wanton-wonton

Active Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2004
Messages
1,415
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Slide Rule said:
3? Even thought there exists 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimensional (So far, heh)?

3+1=4?
What's that??

Anyway, it's not required at all, this whole dimension thing.
 

richz

Active Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2004
Messages
1,348
wanton-wonton said:
Einstein’s second postulate states that the speed of light in empty space always has the same value, c (3 × 108 m s-1), independent of the motion of the observer. In the thought experiment, Einstein realised that if both observers were to see the same speed of light, and since speed = distance/time, then the distance and time witnessed by both observers must be different.

In other words, if c is constant, then space(length)-time is relative, so to fully define where something is, 3 coordinates of space and time is required.
hmm, i dont understand, what you mean by 3 coords of space and time
 

Slidey

But pieces of what?
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
6,600
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
wanton-wonton said:
What's that??

Anyway, it's not required at all, this whole dimension thing.
Er, considering you made reference to it in your post, and considering this is HSC physics... I would think you'd need to know what a dimension is and that you've got 4 of them, not 3.
 

richz

Active Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2004
Messages
1,348
do u mean that it needs more coordinates to be more specific to where a person is??
 

Slidey

But pieces of what?
Joined
Jun 12, 2004
Messages
6,600
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Basically, yeah. People say we are 3D, right? 3-dimensional. We can be located in a co-ordiante system by a set of co-ordinates: (x,y,z).

But we know that we also move through time, so that any coordinates (x,y,z) will NOT tell you where a person is, merely where they might be. You need a fourth co-ordinate, time to say exactly where a person is, because we also move through time.

So if you had all the co-ordinates (x,y,z,t) you would know where an object is.

This is, of course, relative to a specific frame of reference.
 

acmilan

I'll stab ya
Joined
May 24, 2004
Messages
3,989
Location
Jumanji
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Haha but then it gets more complicated and there can exist much more dimensions
 

wanton-wonton

Active Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2004
Messages
1,415
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
acmilan said:
Haha but then it gets more complicated and there can exist much more dimensions
That's something to do with the string theory, right? Well....surely....we don't need to know that stuff, purely out of interest only.
 

wanton-wonton

Active Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2004
Messages
1,415
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
Slide Rule said:
Er, considering you made reference to it in your post, and considering this is HSC physics... I would think you'd need to know what a dimension is and that you've got 4 of them, not 3.
There is four, I did say four.

"Three co-ordinates of space and time"

I think I know what you mean now, did you think I meant TWO co-ordinates of space and ONE time? Well I meant THREE co-ordinates of space and ONE time.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top