The Australians Against Further Immigration Party (2 Viewers)

[Raginsheep]

Before we continue, can someone please tell me what values and properties "Australians" have while other immigrants don't?

 

[ur_inner_child]

I personally class immigrants/migrants to be okay if they're tolerant. They might not be comfortable in a bikini themselves, but they're not troubled by Australians doing so.

And as a child of migrant parents, the biggest test of that for them is probably letting your own children embrace Australian culture in its entirety. I've got to say, it's probably really hard.

As for what other people feel to be "Australian values", I'm not so sure. But I'll get irritated if someone rattles off stereotypes such as enjoying football and bbq's like the last multiculturalism-related thread in NCAP.

 

[*hopeful*]

Oh their not racist, they think because its a multicultural policy they can just do whatever they want as if they are at home.

but it is their home

 

[kokodamonkey]

As for what other people feel to be "Australian values", I'm not so sure. But I'll get irritated if someone rattles off stereotypes such as enjoying football and bbq's like the last multiculturalism-related thread in NCAP.

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

 

[HotShot]

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

Its only natural to be with someone who share similar cultures with you. people feel more secure and comfortable that way.

 

[MaNiElla]

I did not expressed my support for this party nor expressed my desire to stop further immigration. I critisize how you people quickly labelled any other posters who are in favour of immigration restrictions as racist and thats what I critisize while countries from which these immigrants came from are actually practicing racist policies for 50 years.

uummmmmm.....So?

since they're australian citizens now, they've got nothing to do with their own country. They shouldnt be treated according to what they're country does, since they're now australians just like any other australian person.

Anyway, why is this bothering you? do you like plan to immigrate to one of those countries you speak of?

 

[kokodamonkey]

I dont see how they are australian citizens ^^^ if they cant even speak english. We need tougher immigration restrictions in terms of coming to this country and getting citizenship. THen i will respect them as australians.

 

[Raginsheep]

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

I thought it was perfectly acceptable in Australia to wear what we wanted?

 

[*hopeful*]

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

but this is a free country anyone can wear anything they like so really your point is.....pointless ?

im yet to go to any suburb where every house on the street is occupied by people of the same culture

 

[kokodamonkey]

I thought it was perfectly acceptable in Australia to wear what we wanted?

we do. aslong as it is within the acceptable australian culture. assimilate assimilate!!!

 

[Raginsheep]

we do. aslong as it is within the acceptable australian culture. assimilate assimilate!!!

You mean whats acceptable to you?

Hey, back in 1788, the bikini wasn't acceptable, are you saying that we should scrap that? I find fat guys in tiny speedos "culturally unacceptable" and im an "australian" so I guess we should go around baning that too.

 

[Tulipa]

As a migrant who is now an Australian citizen I find something a little bit funny.

Originally American we have friends who LOVE celebrating Thanksgiving and the Fourth of July with us. Even though it has no "place" here, we've never had complaints from anyone about it.

Should we not celebrate Thanksgiving or the Fourth of July anymore because we're now Australian citizens and it's not "assimilating".

Or because we're from another Western country, is that totally fine?

 

[onebytwo]

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

does that mean anglo's have to move in to the heart of cabramatta?
or is it just "foreigners" who have to move in alongside anglo's?

 

[Bendent]

im talkin about not walkin around covered in sheets etc. Thats what im saying by assimilating. alot of you think i just want a white australia. but i want an australia where in a random street, one house has "aussies (whites)", the one next to it has some chinese ppl, the next one has some lebanese people, the next some arabs. and at the end of the day each of them are called australian. Instead of going to some suburbs where every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian. that is when we have problems.

how do you know every house in the street is arab, or leb, or asian exist? have you been inside all the houses in these suburbs. stop being weird weirdo.

 

[Collin]

we do. aslong as it is within the acceptable australian culture. assimilate assimilate!!!

And how do you define acceptable Australian culture?

As for these Arab, Leb or Asian streets, please give me a few examples. I'm sure you've done your research, so why not brief us.

Finally, assuming we do have particular streets full of a bunch of people of the same ethnicity, what exactly is the problem? You declared that a [one] house full of a particular group of the same background can be called Australian, so how does the notion that a bunch of those households clumped together of close physical proximity make the inhabitants any less Australian?

 

[kokodamonkey]

And how do you define acceptable Australian culture?

As for these Arab, Leb or Asian streets, please give me a few examples. I'm sure you've done your research, so why not brief us.

Finally, assuming we do have particular streets full of a bunch of people of the same ethnicity, what exactly is the problem? You declared that a [one] house full of a particular group of the same background can be called Australian, so how does the notion that a bunch of those households clumped together of close physical proximity make the inhabitants any less Australian?

cabramatta, lakema, redfern.

THe problem is, when they "group together" they will then get into fights with other people. which is what happens. WHere as if when they come into australia they are surrounded by randoms/strangers, sure its harder, but it ensures we all get along together with our assimilation policy as at the end of the day we are all part of the human race.

 

[Tulipa]

cabramatta, lakema, redfern.

THe problem is, when they "group together" they will then get into fights with other people. which is what happens. WHere as if when they come into australia they are surrounded by randoms/strangers, sure its harder, but it ensures we all get along together with our assimilation policy as at the end of the day we are all part of the human race.

So like, it's just those ethnic groups that are bad.

so you'd be against about restricting Brits, Americans, Canadians or New Zealanders immigrating?

 

[Captain Gh3y]

I'm against New Zealanders immigrating... there's too many here already.

 

[ur_inner_child]

So what you want is the government to assign migrants/immigrants where they live?

You're not really considering social behaviour within a country that is free. A migrant/immigrant who might want to adopt the Australian culture in its entirety will want to find someone of the same background first because it will be easier to be friends with them, and even understand Australia more (asking them questions and learning from each other). They will group together, its just what happens.

 

[Collin]

cabramatta, lakema, redfern.

I wasn't aware 'Cabramatta', 'Lakemba' and 'Redfern' were streets.

THe problem is, when they "group together" they will then get into fights with other people. which is what happens. WHere as if when they come into australia they are surrounded by randoms/strangers, sure its harder, but it ensures we all get along together with our assimilation policy as at the end of the day we are all part of the human race.

Right, let's just generalise that when Asians, Lebs and Arabs "group together", they will inevitably "get into fights" with other people.

How does this even tie in with your assertion that there is a need to abolish multiculturalism?