The different sections of maths! (1 Viewer)

[lucifel]

As I said, i am trying to be broad. Not as specific as you are. I *know* how diverse each of those classifications are, hell, i know that almost all of maths is diverse, but that's not the point. So don't go throwing around your degree like that. Geez. If i wanted your qualifications I would've asked.

 

[Stefano]

You guys obviously haven't even ever seen "Mathematical Reviews", and probably haven't even heard of it. Come back in a few years and tell me what you think of the classification I gave you when you've done 4-th year uni honours maths. I suspect you'd have quite a different attitude by then.

Heres some 8-bit ASCII for you Mr.4^th year uni honours so called math:

0100011001110101011000110110101100100000011011110110011001100110001011000010000001100011011000010110111000100111011101000010000001111001011011110111010100100000011101000110000101101011011001010010000001100001001000000110101001101111011010110110010100111111

Put your degree to use, decode that and bugger off. A joke is a joke, not an attack on Maths!

 

[acmilan]

I have my own system:

Mathematics falls under 3 categories:

1. HSC Syllabus
2. Cool Math (Too hard)
3. Boring Math (Too easy)

That just about covers everything I think?

Unfortunately, when you get to uni you'll find that boring math can be quite hard and cool maths can be quite easy.

Heres some 8-bit ASCII for you Mr.4^th year uni honours so called math:

0100011001110101011000110110101100100000011011110110011001100110001011000010000001100011011000010110111000100111011101000010000001111001011011110111010100100000011101000110000101101011011001010010000001100001001000000110101001101111011010110110010100111111

Put your degree to use, decode that and bugger off. A joke is a joke, not an attack on Maths!

You'll also find he is beyond a 4th year honours uni student But in general I do agree with Buchanan. That classification system is needed, its way too broad to simply place it into 3-4 categories

 

[Stefano]

It's not that I don't agree with him. It's just his attitude that annoyed me. lucifel and I we're just joking around.

 

[KFunk]

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[yrtherenonames]

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[withoutaface]

Nah, but seriously, Quantum theory is sweet. Quantum Mechanics would have to be on my hobby list. Read a book called: 'Dancing Wu-Li Masters' (not 100% about that spelling). I just love that new physics and the way it co-operates with mathematics so elegantly. Beauty.

Example; If a basketball is bounced against a wall it has a [very small] chance of going through the wall entirely! - fact!

Quantum physics is crap. I was so stupid to overload physics this semester just so I could do it.

 

[acmilan]

Quantum physics is crap. I was so stupid to overload physics this semester just so I could do it.

Theres a lot of things that look good until you actually do them

*cough*Stats*cough*

 

[Stefano]

Most simple 8-bit ASCII decoders cannot decode this:

010001010111001001110010011011110111001000111010001000000101010101101110011000010110001001101100011001010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011001010110001101101111011001000110010100101110


Try it and see if you receive an error. If it's a freeware decoder you probably will, in which case you will be dying to know what it means.

 

[lucifel]

Most simple 8-bit ASCII decoders cannot decode this:

010001010111001001110010011011110111001000111010001000000101010101101110011000010110001001101100011001010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011001010110001101101111011001000110010100101110


Try it and see if you receive an error. If it's a freeware decoder you probably will, in which case you will be dying to know what it means.

haha that's rather clever actually.

 

[Stefano]

Thanks

haha that's rather clever actually.

I thought so too!

 

[lucifel]

I thought so too!

now the only problem is, i am jealous because i want to have thought of it first...
oh and I wonder if mr "i am good at maths" will catch onto it

 

[Stefano]

now the only problem is, i am jealous because i want to have thought of it first...
oh and I wonder if mr "i am good at maths" will catch onto it

ROFL! Yeah, I wonder. He will most probably just claim it's not funny, mention a book with a long title and remind us that he has a degree. lol

 

[lucifel]

no no, he has *more* than that, he has....honours. Fear his wrath we must!

Bet you, next thing he says, is "you're so immature"

 

[lucifel]

oh well, so i didn't, but you're still implying a sense of moral superiority over me with your condescendingness. (damn the word slips my mind)

 

[yrtherenonames]

um....Condoleezza ?condescension?

 

[acmilan]

I dont see a condescending tone in there, I think he was implying you'd appreciate it more once you've actually experienced it.

 

[lucifel]

it's not like i think the HSC is the be all and end all of any educational endeavour, hell if the HSC has done anything for me, it's frustrated me and annoyed me in more ways then I can describe. However, I do apologise if i seem snappy, there is a very obvious reason for this. Guess what it is. But i am sorry. Anyways, I do see your point in the whoe "you'll appreiciate it more as you learn about it", there is certainly no doubt about that. But the question then becomes, does it become necessary to make such distinct groups especially considering the audience is mostly well face it HSC students. Thus by introducing a *large* amount of stuff that people have never heard of, or only know of, let's use partial differential equations for arguments sake. All those that do 4U maths will have a fairly good idea what a DE is, I am no exception. Some will know what partial derivatives are, some won't. But importantly, a lot will *never* know, mainly due to the fault of a shitty syllabus, but we shall not delve into that.

Point is, by introducing so many different topics, it defeats the point of my thread. My thread was aimed to *try and be general as possible*. Of course I could've chosen the easier path and jsut said, "Pure Maths" and "Applied Maths". Hell both of those would require the use of ODEs and even PDEs as one progresses, but Pure Maths and Applied Maths is a well recognised system of classification. Is it broad? Hell Yeh. Is it wrong? No. So what's the matter with broadness? I was hoping that the 4 or 5 things I did list could encompass the things which Buchanan has mentioned. There is no doubt there is a BIG difference between Calculus of single variables (where ODEs are), and Calculus of Several Variables (PDEs), well not that much, but the theory is slighty different. And I do not claim that the HSC is any good reference point, it introduces some *very* elementary theory in single variable calculus, but does that really change the broad catergories I have set out? No not really. Point is, if I wanted to classify *all* of maths specifically, I would definately agree, what I have set out is nowhere *near* close to what maths has to offer. *But* by the same token, the catergories I set out seems to encompass most (if not all) the different sections. As I have said, I believe quite strongly that Real and Complex Analysis could fit neatly under "Analysis".

And one other thing has just dawned to me. No i am not saying that because i am trying to be broad i am trying to find one word to encompass all of maths. There already exists such a word, but I am trying to break it down into what can be considered main classifications. Of course this becomes very subjective, which is kinda why I have this rather long post. Hell this post is probably longer than all the other 50 odd I have posted before.

And yes it was tempting to put it *all* in binary, but nah, people wouldn't read it that way. Not that many will read it now, it's a *big* slab of text, I know for the most part I skim big slabs of text, so i don't mind. But eh? Beats studying for English.

 

[Stefano]

it's not like i think the HSC is the be all and end all of any educational endeavour, hell if the HSC has done anything for me, it's frustrated me and annoyed me in more ways then I can describe. However, I do apologise if i seem snappy, there is a very obvious reason for this. Guess what it is. But i am sorry. Anyways, I do see your point in the whoe "you'll appreiciate it more as you learn about it", there is certainly no doubt about that. But the question then becomes, does it become necessary to make such distinct groups especially considering the audience is mostly well face it HSC students. Thus by introducing a *large* amount of stuff that people have never heard of, or only know of, let's use partial differential equations for arguments sake. All those that do 4U maths will have a fairly good idea what a DE is, I am no exception. Some will know what partial derivatives are, some won't. But importantly, a lot will *never* know, mainly due to the fault of a shitty syllabus, but we shall not delve into that.

Point is, by introducing so many different topics, it defeats the point of my thread. My thread was aimed to *try and be general as possible*. Of course I could've chosen the easier path and jsut said, "Pure Maths" and "Applied Maths". Hell both of those would require the use of ODEs and even PDEs as one progresses, but Pure Maths and Applied Maths is a well recognised system of classification. Is it broad? Hell Yeh. Is it wrong? No. So what's the matter with broadness? I was hoping that the 4 or 5 things I did list could encompass the things which Buchanan has mentioned. There is no doubt there is a BIG difference between Calculus of single variables (where ODEs are), and Calculus of Several Variables (PDEs), well not that much, but the theory is slighty different. And I do not claim that the HSC is any good reference point, it introduces some *very* elementary theory in single variable calculus, but does that really change the broad catergories I have set out? No not really. Point is, if I wanted to classify *all* of maths specifically, I would definately agree, what I have set out is nowhere *near* close to what maths has to offer. *But* by the same token, the catergories I set out seems to encompass most (if not all) the different sections. As I have said, I believe quite strongly that Real and Complex Analysis could fit neatly under "Analysis".

And one other thing has just dawned to me. No i am not saying that because i am trying to be broad i am trying to find one word to encompass all of maths. There already exists such a word, but I am trying to break it down into what can be considered main classifications. Of course this becomes very subjective, which is kinda why I have this rather long post. Hell this post is probably longer than all the other 50 odd I have posted before.

And yes it was tempting to put it *all* in binary, but nah, people wouldn't read it that way. Not that many will read it now, it's a *big* slab of text, I know for the most part I skim big slabs of text, so i don't mind. But eh? Beats studying for English.

010110010110010101110011

 

[Antwan23q]

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