The Eternal Question - Advanced or Standard (2 Viewers)

[thomas477]

I recently dropped to standard after averaging 65 in the prelim advanced course.

My question is, if I get 80+ in standard english, along with 80% in my other subjects (chem, phys, maths, design and tech) [and 40% in Maths Ext 1] is it possible for me to get 80ish ATAR.

Thank you

 

[clintmyster]

yeah but work hard.

 

[ehtefaz.hedayet]

yeah but work hard.

+1

standard and advanced pretty much have the same scaling.

 

[kyokaku92]

Nothing wrong with standard, just work hard and you'll be fine

 

[0bs3n3]

Nothing wrong with standard, just work hard and you'll be fine

Except that they're usually given the crappy teachers.

 

[thomas477]

Except that they're usually given the crappy teachers.

Well my standard teacher aint too bad, and also, thank you to all of those who have replied

 

[Shadowdude]

+1

standard and advanced pretty much have the same scaling.

WRONG.

If Standard and Advanced have the same scaling, why don't we all do Standard?

Standard's scaled mean is 17.9 for 2008, Advanced's scaled mean is 31.3.

 

[ajaxandacme]

Standard and Advanced have the same ALIGNING. Their SCALING is very different as we see above. I would choose Advanced. I loved the Advanced course.

 

[kyokaku92]

Except that they're usually given the crappy teachers.

That's just generalisation. My ext english teacher teaches a standard class and he's really good

 

[00acissej]

That's just generalisation. My ext english teacher teaches a standard class and he's really good

True. At my school, the teacher who teaches Ext. 2 English also teaches Standard English.

 

[saberbladexx]

WRONG.

If Standard and Advanced have the same scaling, why don't we all do Standard?

Standard's scaled mean is 17.9 for 2008, Advanced's scaled mean is 31.3.

LOL thats the MEAN , obviously theres a larger proportion of better students in the Advance course...

http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/uai/2008_table_A3.pdf


English StandardHSC 43-----38.5---36.5
.......................scaled 38------28.9--23.5
English AdvancedHSC 42.5---39.5---37
........................scaled 37.8---31.8---25.5

They have similar scaling, this has been stated many times before...

 

[annabackwards]

WRONG.

If Standard and Advanced have the same scaling, why don't we all do Standard?

Standard's scaled mean is 17.9 for 2008, Advanced's scaled mean is 31.3.

Standard and Advanced have the same ALIGNING. Their SCALING is very different as we see above. I would choose Advanced. I loved the Advanced course.

Everyone quotes above hasn't read UAC's scaling report.
The difference is in their aligning =='

And why don't people do standard english? It's because the standard english aligning makes it much harder to get a good mark in it.

+1

standard and advanced pretty much have the same scaling.

LOL thats the MEAN , obviously theres a larger proportion of better students in the Advance course...

http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/uai/2008_table_A3.pdf


English StandardHSC 43-----38.5---36.5
.......................scaled 38------28.9--23.5
English AdvancedHSC 42.5---39.5---37
........................scaled 37.8---31.8---25.5

They have similar scaling, this has been stated many times before...

+1 although they should have the same scaling.

 

[jet]

Everyone quotes above hasn't read UAC's scaling report.

And why don't people do standard english? It's because the standard english aligning makes it much harder to get a good mark in it.

+1.

But the number of band 6's has been steadily increasing. Whether that reflects on the quality of the cohort or leniency of markers/aligning, I don't know.

 

[shockmaster92]

I think that the poor scaling in standard English candidatures derives form the performance in the 1st paper because it is the common paper and thus the reason why the scaling of Standard English is so poor because of the quality of the 1st paper responses are of a better quality by a Advanced student say to opposed to a response by a Standard student.

but it is only a speculation

 

[annabackwards]

I think that the poor scaling in standard English candidatures derives form the performance in the 1st paper because it is the common paper and thus the reason why the scaling of Standard English is so poor because of the quality of the 1st paper responses are of a better quality by a Advanced student say to opposed to a response by a Standard student.

but it is only a speculation

Another person who hasn't read the UAC report.

You are correct in saying standard is differentiated from advanced through paper 1, but the difference is in how the marks are aligned not how they are scaled.

 

[shockmaster92]

Another person who hasn't read the UAC report.

You are correct in saying standard is differentiated from advanced through paper 1, but the difference is in how the marks are aligned not how they are scaled.

forgive me

 

[annabackwards]

forgive me

No worries - i'm glad you finally see the light