CieL said:
Go-karting is hardly representative of real driving..
He'll learn that once he gets his car licence.
Seriously.. when you're gokarting.. and when you get close to someone and bump them a bit.. hardly anything happens.. when you crash/spinout, there's sand pits and tyre walls to keep you from hurting yourself [tracks are such controlled environments].. and go-karts dont go fast anyway.. I'm yet to see someone roll out of their kart.. their centre of gravity is so low compared to cars they just dont seem to flip no matter how you trash it.. plus if there's an accident, there's warning lights all over the course so you're prepared for what happens.. whereas on a real road, most likely you can't see much ahead.. thank god for ABS..
Go karting is childs play. You don't even need to think about other people's lives. My reaction is totally opposite when a gokart spins out compared to when a car spins out in front of you. I laugh or I get scared.
Daniel should get in a real car and drive around in high speeds at an unknown location before he says all this bullshit about himself.
Also, on REAL roads, you get all sorts of drivers.. especially those of the shit variety.. on a track, you'd expect the drivers to be competent of some sort.. but in real life.. you get drunks on the road, old people with vision impairment who can't even stay in their own lane.. mums who are too busy shouting and looking at their kids in the back seat rather than the road.. people who think they're all mighty.. you just DONT know who's in the drivers seat.. which makes everything so different..
This argument is getting so lame.
I can't believe someone is talking about how good they are just because they can operate a go-kart. Fuck.. this is why even little kids can play go-karting. It's like a glorified version of bumper cars.
Senna, Schumacher, even Hamilton were gods of karting. Operating a kart may not be hard at all, but operate it quick. How about James Courtney?
Cars with ABS are blasphemy. Rear wheel ABS - fair enough. No ABS is the absolute fun way. If you can't modulate your brake pedal properly, and yet to you road driving is much more reprisentative of skill?
Go karts don't go fast? What class you been in? The hire 9hp ones? lol
They do flip, and I have seen people fall out personally and in many videos at dedicated karting sites as well as youtube etc.
In the old days (think back to Justin Wilson, Anthony Davidson, Dan Wheldon) they didn't have those plastic bumpers (I agree this was stupid) and a friend of mine (right now driving in LMP2) use to joke you could hang off the rear axle of the guy infront with your foot
So driving around a bunch of clowns (old, blind, idiotic, drunk) is representative of skill level or intelligence while driving?
Reread your post, road driving is really nothing. In fact the only thing I consider road driving as a skill measure is the massive elevation changes and sharp repetitive bumps in the roads (and that is what tests your braking ability to the max without ABS). I've even had the thought pop in to my head to overtake/dive down the inside of someone on the road, but that's just dumb. So how do you test your overtaking ability? Flip the left indicator on or yell "get the fuck out of the right lane"
No point in even bringing up road vs track. Just about totally different. But to criticize karts like that is...
daniel4592 said:
Ok Fine I dont even see why I bother trying to explain to a guy who thinks because it never happend to him that is why you are trying such an arrogant aproach.
Where did you see a racing driver that hasn't gone through go-karting?
True Go karting is much easier but all its meant for is to get you used to the faster better stuff of course its easy thats why you can do it when you are 7 years old.
Its not that hard to become a racing driver this is why you are sayign i am a liar visit websites like bmw ADAC Formula it has a how to get started section.
I will end this here as I dont want to fight over something stupid and little like this its my private stuff what ever happends will happend.
No I do not smoke anything I do not drink as I find it stupid to do so and my family wouldn't take it well.
I dont like Aussie cars either I dont know why I think they are overrated here and none of them are truly aussie Holden Is a part and started of by GM who is American and Ford well Ford is Fully American so Asutralia dosent really have cars but yes i think the M3 would thrash anything either have to offer esspecially holden seeing as ford has the GT40 but that certinally would not handle as well as the M3 around a track.
Ford GT? Re visit racing history 30 years ago please. XB Coupe @ Bathurst? The only other cars to dominate Australia Touring car scene was the JPS 635csi & Godzilla.
Falcon is an Australian platform. Focus, Mondea, new Fiesta are all Euro platforms and use ZF boxes.
Holden's Commodore chassis/platform is Australian too.
And if you do not have funding for European Formula Renault, you should go Formula Ford locally first.
Riet said:
They're non turbos. 145kW and 160kW respectively.. Somehow the R32 is faster even though it's got less power... The bike only has 40 hp but will still leave you standing except it tops about 150 km/h.
Shot at 2007-08-17
What diffs do the cars use?