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UNSW Shanghainese Society!! (2 Viewers)
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So don't bother playing the racial misunderstanding card with me. In fact, I've lived most of my life here, and only came to Aus during early high school. Do I feel affiliation? I sure do, and a strong one. Do I wanna join this society? No, cos it looks like it segregates, and the Shanghainese already have a certain perception from other Chinese who aren't as "well off" as many of us are, and then you put in place a society which will emphasise this difference.
Imagine at UNSW if there was a North Shore Society?
I think most people have a problem with the fact that you're already all members of the Chinese Society, and instead of making an extra meeting in it, you go out and create your own society targeted at Shanghainese people (which people from other parts of China - especially those parts not so advanced - would obviously see as being elitist -even if that's not your intention).
This made me laugh. I'm from Qiaozhen. Do you know where that is? A city in Shanghai
So don't bother playing the racial misunderstanding card with me. In fact, I've lived most of my life here, and only came to Aus during early high school. Do I feel affiliation? I sure do, and a strong one. Do I wanna join this society? No, cos it looks like it segregates, and the Shanghainese already have a certain perception from other Chinese who aren't as "well off" as many of us are, and then you put in place a society which will emphasise this difference.Imagine at UNSW if there was a North Shore Society?
Yes redslert, very sus. "Miserychick" came out of nowhere and then is very knowledgeable - posts once and leaves. I should ask one of the mods to do an IP match search
To spite those who don't support it?Originally posted by Miserychick
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link dude...
just cos we're members of the chinese society dosnt mean we cant be members of other societies, just cos ur in the jazz club dos that mean u can be a member of the soul jazz club... is that more elitist than jazz? in terms of what "u" believe ppl from other parts of China'll perceive us... thats ur problem adn theirs cos we are not segragating... if u wanna take us the wrong way then do so... but stop badmouthing us cos we are not segragating... nor are we emphasising a difference... the fact is each of us come from a diff part of china... and theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet ppl who come from ur own part... but dis dosnt mean we're elitist... like i keep reminding u im stil a member of the ChinSoc... and i regularly attend their events... u noe wot... if if i try to organise a meet via ChinSoc targeted at Shang students then that would really be elitist cos im discriminating non-shang members of ChinSoc...
from ur reasoning then HKSS is elitist as well, cos they're a city of China too? thats just absurd...
and ur obviusly taking it too far with the north shore society... that dos sound eliitest but u wouldnt call a Mebourne society or an Adeliade society elitist would u?
dude the fact that we're organising a meet so we can get to noe some shang students dosnt mean we dont wanna meet other students... nor dos it mean we look down on other students... withthe ppl i hang out these days only a minority of them are from shanghai...
and dude... ur not the only one who originally came from shanghai and feel a strong affiliation to it... others feel that too...
and denying them a chance to meet up and affirm that affiliation just cos some ppl'll think we're elitist is just absurd
just cos we're members of the chinese society dosnt mean we cant be members of other societies, just cos ur in the jazz club dos that mean u can be a member of the soul jazz club... is that more elitist than jazz? in terms of what "u" believe ppl from other parts of China'll perceive us... thats ur problem adn theirs cos we are not segragating... if u wanna take us the wrong way then do so... but stop badmouthing us cos we are not segragating... nor are we emphasising a difference... the fact is each of us come from a diff part of china... and theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet ppl who come from ur own part... but dis dosnt mean we're elitist... like i keep reminding u im stil a member of the ChinSoc... and i regularly attend their events... u noe wot... if if i try to organise a meet via ChinSoc targeted at Shang students then that would really be elitist cos im discriminating non-shang members of ChinSoc...
from ur reasoning then HKSS is elitist as well, cos they're a city of China too? thats just absurd...
and ur obviusly taking it too far with the north shore society... that dos sound eliitest but u wouldnt call a Mebourne society or an Adeliade society elitist would u?
dude the fact that we're organising a meet so we can get to noe some shang students dosnt mean we dont wanna meet other students... nor dos it mean we look down on other students... withthe ppl i hang out these days only a minority of them are from shanghai...
and dude... ur not the only one who originally came from shanghai and feel a strong affiliation to it... others feel that too...
and denying them a chance to meet up and affirm that affiliation just cos some ppl'll think we're elitist is just absurd
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i'll start banana society
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i should start it..
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yer im at unsw
my hongkie friends are like... ur such a banana!
my hongkie friends are like... ur such a banana!
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i think everyone is entitled to what they think. put it this way, link, if you aren't interested in this society then dont join it- you are entitlted to that. But please dont come around badmouthing the intentions of the society. After a few years, we can discuss the 'merits' of the club then.
i doubt this is a society to discriminate as ruka has already said. if you dont want to get involved, dont. if you do, come and help the society out and then decide the values of the club
i doubt this is a society to discriminate as ruka has already said. if you dont want to get involved, dont. if you do, come and help the society out and then decide the values of the club
man
fuk those kunts
start it
wat they gonna do? lodge a protest? on wat grounds?
Oh coz shangs are not allowed but honkies are?
man a society in principal is really just for people wif similar backgrounds, interests and desires to get to know the field of speciality better, to bunch together and act as a forum of socialising, activities and personal and collective development. This isn't like the "anti-jew soc", its not opposing any standard norms or accepted practicies of normality, i mean put it simply
if the honkies which is not a state, but merely a city like Shanghai, can have their own society, than there shouldn't even be argument about whether Shangs can start a society, or Beijing guys, or Fujian Guys, or Canto mainlanders, or Tibetans or whatever.
oh btw
this is the first and only sensible message ill write
fuk those kunts
start it
wat they gonna do? lodge a protest? on wat grounds?
Oh coz shangs are not allowed but honkies are?
man a society in principal is really just for people wif similar backgrounds, interests and desires to get to know the field of speciality better, to bunch together and act as a forum of socialising, activities and personal and collective development. This isn't like the "anti-jew soc", its not opposing any standard norms or accepted practicies of normality, i mean put it simply
if the honkies which is not a state, but merely a city like Shanghai, can have their own society, than there shouldn't even be argument about whether Shangs can start a society, or Beijing guys, or Fujian Guys, or Canto mainlanders, or Tibetans or whatever.
oh btw
this is the first and only sensible message ill write
anyways ruk
dun worri bought it
i think in all fairness, most ppl will like be happy to accept shangsoc or more or less accepting of it
theres always a few thats gonna say "wtf wat lamers"
but if u tried to accomodate for everyone
ur just gonna end up doing nothing coz its not possible
dun worri bought it
i think in all fairness, most ppl will like be happy to accept shangsoc or more or less accepting of it
theres always a few thats gonna say "wtf wat lamers"
but if u tried to accomodate for everyone
ur just gonna end up doing nothing coz its not possible
pigs_can_fly
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thats one and a half sensible msgs shawny...new personal best!
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Yeh, apart from the fact that ChinSoc doesn't (and won't) support your movement. It was Jenny from ChinSoc (if you didn't know, one of the main people who run it) who told me about you starting a Shang Society.
UNSW HKSS was around before it became part of China again. So it's your point that's absurd
I'm not denying it - it would be good to meet other "Shangs". It's just that you even said yourself if you did it through ChinSoc it would be elitist, but outside, it wouldn't. I think doing it behind ChinSoc's back (or at least without their backing), is just as much "elitist".
Look it's just a reputation. I'm Shang myself, and I'm already sick of the Shangs who act as though they are better than other Chinese (I'm NOT directing this to anyone in this thread). I think introducing Shang-interest groups within ChinSoc is a good idea, so then other Chinese members can get to know more about Shanghai.
ZeldaSoc!
There is a difference between badmouthing and questioning. I'm ready to have my views changed.
I don't think they intended it to be a group that would discriminate, I just think that's the way a lot of non-Shang Chinese people will see it, especially due to the way in which Shanghai is already seen as the "rich" area of China. This society isn't a subset of ChinSoc - they're going it alone.
As I said, HKSS in it's original form was around before China took back Hong Kong.
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