We made a mistake with Rudd, didn't we? (4 Viewers)

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Lauchlan

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Yes, we all know how MUCH you love communism lol
as MUCH as i enjoy studying general mathematics... oh wait! i dont..... thank god for that - btw everyone the national curriculum is supposed to have more maths courses but it doesnt include all of the harder nsw stuff - eat that kids who are affected lol.
 

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Re: Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :p

the GFC plugened us into dept, which was caused by economists. are you that fucking narrow minded that you think that Rudd single handledly caused the GFC?

BTW enconomists jobs include making money harder to get hold of, so how does money make people happy?

It makes people want to buy things, they encounter a brief moment of happyness (they have money) then they spend it and they are sad again.

Do you really believe that money is the centre of all, even though economists have screwed up the economy.

Rudd may have wasted money on laptops that don't work (im using one right now) but at least he CARED, which is something at Howard, Turnbull, Fraiser, Abbot and YOU have all failed at.

Money doesnt make people happy, it evokes compulsive behavior.

How bad would life be without money; 10,000 years ago humanity survived without economists so why can't we.

Because of your beloved economists, my family can't afford our house anymore.

None of Rudd's policies have affected our immediate way of life, so WHO THE FUCK CARES???

also it says at the top "Re: Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :p" so therefore the topic has changed and now we can talk about Abbot all we want

I know this is off topic but i dont give a shit.
Most retarded post I have ever read in this forum. You are blatantly incorrect with everything you have just said.

Edit: In regards to other posts, work-choices was the best thing John Howard did for this country.
 
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Re: Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :p

Most retarded post I have ever read in this forum. You are blatantly incorrect with everything you have just said.
i know right i took so much effort for me not to just flame the crap out of it
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

lol you wouldn't be able to hold these values and ideologies of yours when you're dead because you couldn't buy food because you have no MONEY!!

the way the Labour spent money as i have already said WAS STUPID

yes but you see your points were stupid and it looked as if you had even no minimal knowledge of economics or history, things that are core to debating this topic

yes i always said i hated them both i think it was pretty clear when i said i don't support government.

we have already gone over this Abbot is not PM thus he hasn't been in the position to do anything positively and u can't say health minister because as i have already stated public health is fucked and you can put a monkey or Steven hawking in charge of it, it will always be a sack of shit.

i hate Kevin more due to wasteful money spending, censorship. saying sorry when it was not needed and trying to be a fucking dip shit communist in general
Sorry wasnt necessary? who cares anyway? its words, get over it you racist fool. lol
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

Sorry wasnt necessary? who cares anyway? its words, get over it you racist fool. lol
lol is that all you are going to take from that refute?

feel like a big man pulling the race card?

why should generations who had nothing to do with it say sorry for something our ancestors did?

ill assume i won on all other points
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

i said trying to be communist, hes not actually a commie.............yet......
Funny how quick you are to link what is really mild Keynesian economics with communism when Keynes himself used to argue he was trying to reform capitalism to save it from socialism.
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

Funny how quick you are to link what is really mild Keynesian economics with communism when Keynes himself used to argue he was trying to reform capitalism to save it from socialism.
yes but unfortunately for him his intentions if thats what they were, produced the opposite in the outcome
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

yes but unfortunately for him his intentions if thats what they were, produced the opposite in the outcome
Yeah wealth didn't grow at all in the post-war period.
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

lol my point was that his ideas would aid socialism.
No, no they didn't and we are all poorer for it but more to the point a belief in government intervention does not by default lead to an abolition of personal ownership concepts.
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

No, no they didn't and we are all poorer for it but more to the point a belief in government intervention does not by default lead to an abolition of personal ownership concepts.
maybe not, but it does lead to unemployment, inflation and the economy fucks up massively about every ten years which the government helps to make it worse. yep got to love state intervention
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

lol is that all you are going to take from that refute?

feel like a big man pulling the race card?

why should generations who had nothing to do with it say sorry for something our ancestors did?

ill assume i won on all other points
the sorry issue was something where i 100% disagree with you.
it was symbolic - something that can be understood by those involved.
it involved the the current govt identifying fail unfair past policies of other govts towards ATSI's.
if the generation responsible doesn't apoligise, then its not a bad idea for the next to symbolically apoligise on theirs and everyones behalf (despite u pathetic ignorant people who think otherwise).

other points are arguably arguable by me but in the other hand i could agree to some aspects.
btw, stop being a baby - by no means has anyone 'won' any argument on this thread full stop.

for your benefit, i will quote you again.
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

the sorry issue was something where i 100% disagree with you.
it was symbolic - something that can be understood by those involved.
it involved the the current govt identifying fail unfair past policies of other govts towards ATSI's.
if the generation responsible doesn't apoligise, then its not a bad idea for the next to symbolically apoligise on theirs and everyones behalf (despite u pathetic ignorant people who think otherwise).

other points are arguably arguable by me but in the other hand i could agree to some aspects.
btw, stop being a baby - by no means has anyone 'won' any argument on this thread full stop.

for your benefit, i will quote you again.
only fucking hippies give a flying fuck about symbolism, it was unnecessary. they're are so many better things that could of been done with the time wasted on apologizing to some dazed out petrol sniffing Aborigines who probably don't even know what fucking year it is.

we give them so many fucking undeserved benefits its just not funny anymore. only the tiniest of minorities use these benefits for good. the rest just want to sit on the ground all day looking at the clouds fucking stoned off their tits

btw i did win on all the other points i don't see how you could refute them ffs i could defend the labour party better then you could
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

maybe not, but it does lead to unemployment, inflation and the economy fucks up massively about every ten years which the government helps to make it worse. yep got to love state intervention
No it leads to sustainable employment, growth, moderate inflation etc until some nancy boy neolib politician realizes theres short term capital to be gained from lowering taxes/increasing spending in a boom period sending the damn thing into overdrive.
 

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Re: Did we make a mistake with Rudd? Nope.

No it leads to sustainable employment, growth, moderate inflation etc until some nancy boy neolib politician realizes theres short term capital to be gained from lowering taxes/increasing spending in a boom period sending the damn thing into overdrive.
your lack of economic knowledge disturbs me
 

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Of course. Communists often apologise for their nation's crimes.
Sorry wasnt necessary? who cares anyway? its words, get over it you racist fool. lol
Go back to Vietnam if your so scared of communism - i really dont care about it... it is a system that i do not see australia using because of its positives in theory, but negative in practice.


And I QUOTE:

" (1) lol you wouldn't be able to hold these values and ideologies of yours when you're dead because you couldn't buy food because you have no MONEY!!

(2) yes but you see your points were stupid and it looked as if you had even no minimal knowledge of economics or history, things that are core to debating this topic

(3) yes i always said i hated them both i think it was pretty clear when i said i don't support government.

(4) we have already gone over this Abbot is not PM thus he hasn't been in the position to do anything positively and u can't say health minister because as i have already stated public health is fucked and you can put a monkey or Steven hawking in charge of it, it will always be a sack of shit. "

1. A combination of the two is what im talking about. complain all you want about that, he still would be better than costello (who would have replaced howard) in my opinion.
2. thats your opinion. prove it, you fail to provide proof no matter who asks you or how many times they ask you.
3. you resorted to saying that after u failed at responding to my so-called stupid questions - if they were so undereducated you would have no trouble in answering them satisfactorily.
4. tony abbott is 'putting together' his policy 'in due season' on health that will basically mimic rudd's... probaly he wont relaease anything at all knowing tony on health. regardless of realities tony still was a shit health minister. agreed? lol
 

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