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What is the hardest HSC subject? (3 Viewers)
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determine, and I actually know him in real life too
but then again he worked his ass off in the subjects that he did
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Coming from someone who doesn't do maths, Extension 2. But from all of my subjects, Japanese. Mainly because I do it via correspondence and it's slightly raping me because I am slightly struggling at it, not as much as Modern History where I have no passion for it (hence why I am dropping the subject). Also I guess Latin or Classical Greek as well as any Extension language.
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Additionally, as I said before, 2008 100 UAI with Drama
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A few years back, a girl at my school got a very high 90's UAI with Drama, Dance, Art, S&C and Advanced English..
I think that there isn't a 'hardest subject' because it varies for everybody. Personally, i'd die having to try and do 4 unit maths or physics, or even music or drama for that matter. But then I love history, where my friends who do all maths and science subjects would find it a nightmare D:
I think that there isn't a 'hardest subject' because it varies for everybody. Personally, i'd die having to try and do 4 unit maths or physics, or even music or drama for that matter. But then I love history, where my friends who do all maths and science subjects would find it a nightmare D:
krnofdrg
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But for me i'd say 2unit maths is the hardest... I should've never chose it since i lack the passion/motivation for it so therefore worsening my results/performance. But yeah i love my other subjects alot XDDDD
Eg. alot of people do the 4unit maths+chem+physics combo in my school since they are all 'high' tier subjects and think they will end up with high atars because of it despite they perform poorly.. you need passion and effort for those hard subjects which they lack.. (so not good results)
Eg. alot of people do the 4unit maths+chem+physics combo in my school since they are all 'high' tier subjects and think they will end up with high atars because of it despite they perform poorly.. you need passion and effort for those hard subjects which they lack
.. (so not good results)
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Apart from all the rah rah rah it varies for all individuals (the it's all relative argument), you should consider if you hadn't learnt anything about the course.
For example if you were to sit a general maths exam, chances are you'd get at least some marks, no matter who you were purely because of basic mathematical understanding. But then subjects with multi choice bring up another issue. These subjects are much easier to score marks in even if you don't know it, so they COULD be considered easier (even if for subjects like physics they are difficult) purely because you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting it right. That being said, subjects such as art would definitely be possible under the claim that your major work was abstract or something.
However languages for instance you would stand no chance. Apart from knowing maybe a word or two in some languages (assuming of course that it isn't your native tongue, and remembering we are just going on general knowledge), there is no way more than half of us would be able to sit ANY language exam, not to mention the fact that there is speaking, listening and writing parts to the exam.
But some subjects such as CAFS on the other hand, can use general knowledge or basic intellect to at least attempt most if not all of the marks, compared to someone without a basic understanding of integration attempting to sit the MX2 exam.
To sum: All languages, MX2, then anything without multi choice that doesn't rely on logic.
For example if you were to sit a general maths exam, chances are you'd get at least some marks, no matter who you were purely because of basic mathematical understanding. But then subjects with multi choice bring up another issue. These subjects are much easier to score marks in even if you don't know it, so they COULD be considered easier (even if for subjects like physics they are difficult) purely because you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting it right. That being said, subjects such as art would definitely be possible under the claim that your major work was abstract or something.
However languages for instance you would stand no chance. Apart from knowing maybe a word or two in some languages (assuming of course that it isn't your native tongue, and remembering we are just going on general knowledge), there is no way more than half of us would be able to sit ANY language exam, not to mention the fact that there is speaking, listening and writing parts to the exam.
But some subjects such as CAFS on the other hand, can use general knowledge or basic intellect to at least attempt most if not all of the marks, compared to someone without a basic understanding of integration attempting to sit the MX2 exam.
To sum: All languages, MX2, then anything without multi choice that doesn't rely on logic.
krnofdrg
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CAFS is very generic and basic knowledge.. However the subject should not be too underestimated.. But yes i agree with you that you can make some type of attempt (You could probably end up with 30-40% if you walked in the HSC with descent common knowledge) since you learn about things in Society like organisations, social groups and etc...
Source: Both my sisters sitting the HSC do CAFS... (All my sister does it read her school notes and one day cramming which is enough to get her 85+ for trials)
I had no idea what you were talking about. Having seen some of the questions in 1967 - 1969 - I must say they are far more advanced than our current MX2. Wonder how many were good enough to handle it each year? Many of the questions are 1st year University maths.
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it depends on the person. mx2 is overrated. if it were up to me, the hardest subject would be one of the Englishes.
Omnipotence
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Says the guy that tanked it.
Yes. Well before they dumbed it down, much of what is now taught at uni was taught at school.
krnofdrg
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2U MATHS IS THE HARDEST. OMG AT Q 9 AND 10s.. *cries*
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Uhh, you're very misinformed then.
It's obviously Maths Extension 2 - from the general subjects most people take, not factoring into account niche languages and the like. For all intents and purposes, it's Maths Extension 2.
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Insert Matthew Goodwin comment here.
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I saw him today, he walked past me on his way to a lecture... I COULD HAVE DIED. I think his hand is bigger than my face. =(
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4u + 3u eng + 2u eng
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Well I think we need to consider this in context.
Preceding the HSC was of course the Leaving Certificate from 1916-1966 but nothing comparable to Extension 2 because before 1967 there was no year 12 equivalent. Year 12 only began in 1967 as a result of the Wyndham scheme. Nevertheless, for comparison here is the first leaving certificate examination, the highest level of which was Mathematics Honours:
http://4unitmaths.com/1916.pdf
The LC was introduced because it was deemed superior to the university entrance exams used previously since 1858.
Then as a result of a change from LC to HSC in 1966 we have the following sequence of syllabuses and examinations:
Original Level 1 syllabus (1965):
http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/fourunit/level1syllabus.pdf
Exams: http://4unitmaths.com/hsc1967-1974.pdf
First 4 unit course (1973):
http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/fourunit/4usyllabus1.pdf
Exams: http://4unitmaths.com/hsc1975-1980.pdf
Second 4 unit course (1980):
http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/fourunit/4usyllabus2.pdf
Exams: http://4unitmaths.com/hsc1981-1989.pdf
Current syllabus (Third 4 unit and Extension 2 courses) (1989):
http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/syllabus_hsc/pdf_doc/maths4u_syl.pdf
Exams: http://4unitmaths.com/4u_1990-1994.pdf and for 1995 onwards: http://boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/hsc_exams/
Proposed syllabuses for the future:
Draft Syllabus (2008):
http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.a...pdf_doc/mathematics-extension-2-st6-draft.pdf
Draft National Curriculum (2010):
http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/fourunit/specialist.pdf
An updated version of the national curriculum is to be released in 2012 at http://www.australiancurriculum.edu.au and I have seen a preliminary version of the 2012 one which has not yet been published because it is still a work in progress.
Considering all the above I still say the answer is Level 1.
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A well considered response.