what mark would you realistically need to be a 1 on 1 tutor for any hsc subject (2 Viewers)

[compd]

also what price for what mark

 

[arcadian]

I don't think I've seen anyone below 95

 

[burningbelcher]

imo the mark is like a benchmark, but the price per hour for teaching would depend on your past experience and ur success stories

 

[Aeonium]

minimum band 6

 

[Ishi081]

minimum band 6

Raw mark or scaled mark for the subject your tutoring or in all your subjects?

 

[Aeonium]

Raw mark or scaled mark for the subject your tutoring or in all your subjects?

final hsc mark for the subject

 

[Ishi081]

final hsc mark for the subject

okay thanks!

 

[jonolad69]

depends what subject mate

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

I would say mid-90s to even be considered by most students looking for tutoring

FYI: Just because you achieved high marks, does not mean, in any way, shape or form that you can help others do the same.

I have turned away state rankers as they just didn’t have the communication skills required to help OTHERS achieve.

Learning is not done via osmosis and being able to communicate what you understand is AT LEAST as important as the understanding itself

Honestly, some advice from someone who has gone from working in his garage with 4 students to owning a tutoring centre and working with several hundred students each year, get yourself out there, use forums like this, discord and socials etc to get a reputation and students will come, it’s just not as instantaneous (for most) as you would like.

If you’re happy with putting in work with no expectation of anything in return, give it a couple of years and if you’re any good, you will be amazed at what you can achieve.

 

[Aeonium]

I would say mid-90s to even be considered by most students looking for tutoring

FYI: Just because you achieved high marks, does not mean, in any way, shape or form that you can help others do the same.

I have turned away state rankers as they just didn’t have the communication skills required to help OTHERS achieve.

Learning is not done via osmosis and being able to communicate what you understand is AT LEAST as important as the understanding itself

Honestly, some advice from someone who has gone from working in his garage with 4 students to owning a tutoring centre and working with several hundred students each year, get yourself out there, use forums like this, discord and socials etc to get a reputation and students will come, it’s just not as instantaneous (for most) as you would like.

If you’re happy with putting in work with no expectation of anything in return, give it a couple of years and if you’re any good, you will be amazed at what you can achieve.

any tips on tutoring and communication?

 

[KanyeWestLover76]

any tips on tutoring and communication?

 

[synthesisFR]

to be a 1-1 tutor for any subject from my experience you typically need one of/both of these things
1) atleast a band 6 in the subject, but if u have a lot of experience then people start to care about your subject specific marks less/dont ask as much
2) a really high atar
if ur atar is really high then literally all parents will want u to tutor their child no matter what lol (esp depending on the area some might think even a 90+ atar is good)

ive seen people who just got a band 6 in their hsc charge like 60/hour after a year of tutoring experience which student do actually pay, AS long as you are able to teach them well. This applies esp to subjects like english. do dont worry if you bombed an exam because they way you teach (offer a trial lesson) should make up for it if ur good enough and then after u have a few students i tends to not matter as much, and u get referrals from current students as well.

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

any tips on tutoring and communication?

For me, it’s all about putting in the reps.

First time I taught Physics, I was alright (I actually was MUCH better at Chem). I only got better when I taught it more (I was forced into teaching Phys my first year out of uni and was the only Phys teacher at the school! So it took a lot of self-learning! ), got feedback from my students, worked on the areas I sucked at (mostly the long-winded theory parts) and eventually understood all the intricacies in the syllabus. It honestly took me years to get to the point where I could answer any question (relevant to the syllabus) thrown at me.

If you have a sibling or a neighbour or a friend in the year below you, offer them conditional free tutoring (even if it is for just the first term) and the condition is that they give you honest feedback every lesson (and if it’s a sibling, get them to clean your room, lmfao)

If I can get to where I am now in less than a decade, no reason why anyone else who puts in the effort can’t.

Just gotta put that effort in, don’t be afraid of hard work. You are not a special snowflake, you are not going to make $100k/week straight out of high school and it’s not going to be easier for you than everyone else.

Charge below your worth, get the reps, get some feedback, get some testimonials and then go for it

 

[jonolad69]

For me, it’s all about putting in the reps.

First time I taught Physics, I was alright (I actually was MUCH better at Chem). I only got better when I taught it more, got feedback from my students, worked on the areas I sucked at (mostly the long-winded theory parts) and eventually understood all the intricacies in the syllabus. It honestly took me years to get to the point where I could answer any question (relevant to the syllabus) thrown at me.

If you have a sibling or a neighbour or a friend in the year below you, offer them conditional free tutoring (even if it is for just the first term) and the condition is that they give you honest feedback every lesson (and if it’s a sibling, get them to clean your room, lmfao)

If I can get to where I am now in less than a decade, no reason why anyone else who puts in the effort can’t.

Just gotta put that effort in, don’t be afraid of hard work. You are not a special snowflake, you are not going to make $100k/week straight out of high school and it’s not going to be easier for you than everyone else.

Charge below your worth, get the reps, get some feedback, get some testimonials and then go for it

if u tutor a student for a whole term and they end up bombing their assessment task, like almost failing. whos fault is that? and is it justifiable for the student to blame the tutor and just stop doing lessons

 

[compd]

For me, it’s all about putting in the reps.

First time I taught Physics, I was alright (I actually was MUCH better at Chem). I only got better when I taught it more (I was forced into teaching Phys my first year out of uni and was the only Phys teacher at the school! So it took a lot of self-learning! ), got feedback from my students, worked on the areas I sucked at (mostly the long-winded theory parts) and eventually understood all the intricacies in the syllabus. It honestly took me years to get to the point where I could answer any question (relevant to the syllabus) thrown at me.

If you have a sibling or a neighbour or a friend in the year below you, offer them conditional free tutoring (even if it is for just the first term) and the condition is that they give you honest feedback every lesson (and if it’s a sibling, get them to clean your room, lmfao)

If I can get to where I am now in less than a decade, no reason why anyone else who puts in the effort can’t.

Just gotta put that effort in, don’t be afraid of hard work. You are not a special snowflake, you are not going to make $100k/week straight out of high school and it’s not going to be easier for you than everyone else.

Charge below your worth, get the reps, get some feedback, get some testimonials and then go for it

tysm!

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

if u tutor a student for a whole term and they end up bombing their assessment task, like almost failing. whos fault is that? and is it justifiable for the student to blame the tutor and just stop doing lessons

Honestly, it depends.

You are a teacher, not a magician.

Not all students are a Band 5/6 student and it is unfair for them and/or their parents to think otherwise.

I would not expect a chef to be able to make me a 3 star Michelin meal if I give them subway ingredients.

Although our centre gets great results and our students see significant improvement, it’s because we have a very specific avatar for our customer and they are the type of students who would benefit from our services.

We do not hold students hands, we do not do their assessments for them and we expect them to work during class — if they want something else, they should go somewhere else. There are plenty of tutoring centres that care more about students enjoying themselves socially than actually working.

As we tutor in groups, if students are struggling, we do need to identify and take appropriate action I have told individual parents that their son/daughter would be more suited to 1-to-1 tuition if they cannot keep up with the class.
If a student has not tried / paid attention from Years 7-10, it is hard for them to ‘snap’ into learning in Year 11 or 12 where things get harder and they often find themselves behind before they even start

You only see them for 1-2 hours/week, you are only a small percentage of their week and you are not overseeing their schedule through the week.

1-to-1 I would expect a bit more ‘individual attention’ than a group tutor, but you need to be honest with the student/parents, you need to be able to justify their improvement rather than their results (focus on the gain) and if they have been sucking for 5 weeks — this should be communicated with them and their parents.

This kind of feedback is essential and is actually something I plan on improving with my own processes going forward.

Many students / parents need a scapegoat and think that tutoring is a magic pill that ensures a Band 6.

You need to be honest about where the student is at and what they need to do to get to where they want to be.

The student is the driver, you are the guide. You can only help them get to where they want to go if they follow your instructions and if they are honest with themselves.

 

[ShhQuietPlease]

Chris is right, its not about your marks as much as your ability to explain questions to students.

I have sat on both sides of the hiring board for new tutors. I have seen some really smart students struggle to simplify simple questions and I have also seen aspiring teachers tackle projectile motion with ease.

I was a very shy when I was a student so teaching was not a gift I was born with. I remember landing my first tutoring role and practicing for many hours at the park with a script that I wrote up. At the end of the day, it's about putting in the hours and constantly improving. I did have the benefit of watching my seniors teach for 3 years (4 hours a week). I also got trained, received lots of feedback, failed teacher assessment twice in my first year of teaching. Training was brutal but I am thankful.

I was also very lucky to be involved in selecting candidates for future teachers. At that point, I'd already taught for four years. Teaching new teachers to teach was an eye opening experience for me because trying to explain something that you do almost instinctively takes practice. You forget how far you've come because everyday you're learning.

I have always told them and now I'll you tell you, there's no shortcuts and no one is gifted, you just need time and effort. I truly believe if you are passionate about something, you will get there eventually.

I look forward to seeing what you become : )