Which Australian Prime Minister is better: Gough Whitlam or Julia Gillard? (3 Viewers)

[Riproot]

I think it is Rudd's very arrogance which will convince him that he can take back the leadership, sweep to victory and become a hero. He knows he's more popular than Abbott.

I'm more popular than Abbott.

I think everyone is.

It doesn't mean shit, and I think Krudd knows that.

 

[townie]

I think it is Rudd's very arrogance which will convince him that he can take back the leadership, sweep to victory and become a hero. He knows he's more popular than Abbott.

Hahaha, will give you $100 if that happens

 

[Lolsmith]

*pats lolsmith* sure sure Dearie

really though how do you go from being one of the most popular democratically elected leaders to a back bencher while your party is still in government

and then that same party literally falls apart even to the extent where rusted on voters are convinced they can't win the next election

that doesn't exactly scream competency though does it

 

[soloooooo]

I'm more popular than Abbott.

I think everyone is.

It doesn't mean shit, and I think Krudd knows that.

Abbott is fairly popular actually. The only Labor politician who stands even a fighting chance of beating Abbott is Rudd.

 

[townie]

really though how do you go from being one of the most popular democratically elected leaders to a back bencher while your party is still in government

and then that same party literally falls apart even to the extent where rusted on voters are convinced they can't win the next election

that doesn't exactly scream competency though does it

Leaders aren't democratically elected, people elect MP's who then decide the leader, in that sense gillard was just as democratically elected as Rudd

 

[funkshen]

am i the only one who thinks an abbott-greens coalition would be glorious

 

[soloooooo]

am i the only one who thinks an abbott-greens coalition would be glorious

I want to see a Liberal - One Nation (led by Pauline Hanson) coalition. Labor & the Greens are dying parties in Australia.

 

[townie]

am i the only one who thinks an abbott-greens coalition would be glorious

I think you'd get a parliament that passed very little legislation

 

[funkshen]

I want to see a Liberal - One Nation (led by Pauline Hanson) coalition. Labor & the Greens are dying parties in Australia.

you are a visionary, sir

I think you'd get a parliament that passed very little legislation

exactly

 

[townie]

I want to see a Liberal - One Nation (led by Pauline Hanson) coalition. Labor & the Greens are dying parties in Australia.

Yes because one nation is winning plenty of seats in elections lately isn't it, it's not dying it's already dead

You are such an idiot

 

[townie]

Abbott is fairly popular actually. The only Labor politician who stands even a fighting chance of beating Abbott is Rudd.

Don't mistake the unpopularity of gillard for the popularity for abbot

 

[Lolsmith]

Leaders aren't democratically elected, people elect MP's who then decide the leader, in that sense gillard was just as democratically elected as Rudd

lol seriously

 

[Lolsmith]

am i the only one who thinks an abbott-greens coalition would be glorious

that would be pretty funny

 

[Lolsmith]

Leaders aren't democratically elected, people elect MP's who then decide the leader, in that sense gillard was just as democratically elected as Rudd

and this has absolutely nothing to do with my point ffs

 

[townie]

Christian, lets not do this again. Why cant you understand that i you post a comment, then you might get challenged on it even if it is tangential to your point. These are the risks of tangents. (although in this case the rudd comment was about half your post......)

Also your original point about incompetence was about gillard, as she is the current leader, Rudd being turfed was about his incompetence not hers. Now if you want to amend your original claim to the party as a whole being incompetent, then the rest of what you said is more valid).

 

[townie]

lol seriously

And yes seriously - we accept the same premise for legislation. We elect MPs to
Vote on legislation, there's no difference to voting on the leader. Either both are democratic or neither. You could legitimately argue that gillard never had a mandate to be PM but that doesn't necescarily mean it is somehow un democratic.

 

[Lentern]

Also your original point about incompetence was about gillard, as she is the current leader, Rudd being turfed was about his incompetence not hers

Ha! More like it had to do with trade union hacks like Don Farrell and David Feeney resenting that they were being boxed out of the main policy deliberations.

 

[Lentern]

I'm more popular than Abbott.

I think everyone is.

It doesn't mean shit, and I think Krudd knows that.

Everyone except Gillard and Swan.

 

[townie]

Ha! More like it had to do with trade union hacks like Don Farrell and David Feeney resenting that they were being boxed out of the main policy deliberations.

Oh ffs go join the liberal party then or the greens

 

[MichelleV]

Obviously Frank Forde was the greatest PM and if anybody contests this shame on them.