which uni?????? and what coarse?????? (1 Viewer)

[ania2501]

ok so i want to do advertising/marketing when i finish at school and i was wondering if anyone cold please tell me what is the best coarse for this career path and also wat is the best uni to study this at?!?!?! theres soo many to choose from and im struggling to decide which one to go to???

please help me!!!!

 

[phrred]

prob UTS theres sum advertising course there, its course btw

 

[The_Apprentice]

If you want to do advertising, than aim for UTS's B. Arts in Communication (Public Communication)...you then choose either the public relations or advertising stream. It's got a very good rep with the industry and is very practical. The UAI needed is around 92-93. If that's out of your range than go for B. Advertising (or there's also B.Advertising/B Marketing) at Charles Sturt, which is also very well regarded. The application process for that course is lengthy, requires submission of essays, questionnaire and interview. They also require a UAI of at least 70.

With marketing, it's something you need to explore practically. That is, you can't expect to graduate from a marketing degree and land a great job because you need some practical skills/personal qualities for many marketing related jobs. Hence, marketing degrees from uni to uni are all slightly different and all provide the fundamental academic foundations to prepare you for practical applications....but I can't say theres any one particular course that stands out. Try your best to find work experience or even a job in this industry, now. You will need to get a general idea of the diverse range of career prospects in marketing and advertising...then it will be much easier to determine the course you want to do.

Hehe, btw I'm doing Arts/Commerce at Sydney Uni. I chose the double degree because I really want a well-rounded education. If you want something more general then maybe go for B.Business at UTS or something.

 

[AsyLum]

prob UTS theres sum advertising course there, its course btw

While we're on spelling corrections, the word is 'some'

 

[PrincessSJ]

choose the uni that has a spelling component integrated into every course you do

 

[kaylz]

Hi there. I do a Bachelor of Arts (Communications - Advertising) / Bachelor of Business (Marketing) at Charles Sturt University in bathurst. I can't say I put a lot of thought into the whole thing, I just sort of ended up here by fluke. I knew CSU had a great reputation in the communications industry, but I didn't know just how good until I got here. The degrees at CSU tend to be more vocational and the graduates have more real experience than those from other institutions - there's an advertising agency on campus run by students and staff. The advertising faculty here has won the international advertising industry award for 3 of the 6 years it's been running which is pretty amazing for a country NSW uni... There are also tonnes of opportunities for work experience and internships both domestically and internationally. I'm one term into my degree and I'm liking it. Plus living on campus kicks ass. If you have any questions you can email or msn me or whatever: kayleighelong@hotmail.com

 

[AsyLum]

Just a little comment, *course*

 

[mr_brightside]

You dont fucking deserve to go to uni.
Learn how to spell.
Fuck...why do the stupid people get good UAI's?

 

[AsyLum]

Its a mystery mate I have a couple of girls in my media degree who hadn't heard of Triple J or SBS before this semester, like wtf?!

 

[Bored of Studies]

I can vouch for the excellence of the current marketing major offered by USYD. A little known fact is that you really don't need much of an advertising degree to get into the industry (this is coming from speaking to professionals). This is why I am a firm believer in the opportunities that the USYD marketing major will provide. It is very broad and covers everything in the industry. Subjects include:
Marketing Principles
Marketing Research
Consumer behaviour (relevant for everything marketing/advertising)
Advertising
Public Relations
brand Management
Marketing strategy (very practical, simulation-based: good to finish the degree with)
International marketing
+ more!
With such a broad range of areas you study, it's very easy getting a job.
Although, I do think that the CSU course would be excellent and more specific, you would have to live in Bathurst.


Asylum: I know a girl who got into Commerce (Liberal Studies) [so would've gotten a 97.6+UAI]. She failed her first essay at uni for Industrial Relations (a subject impossible to fail). After much persuasion she showed it to me. I wish I had copied it - it was gold. No, platinum.
1) Handwritten in pencil
2) Opening paragraph: "www.dictionary.com/dasdjad/daisjdiojasdjas.html defines Industrial Relations as .... [insert def]. I agree with this definition offered by www.dictionary.com."
It continued into a plethora of laughs.

 

[AsyLum]

Hahahahahah!

Oh boy, how in the world do these kids make it through high school

 

[mr_brightside]

This is what fucking shits me. The UAI is not a fair way to judge entry.
I didnt do well in my HSC year. I had a few problems along the way.
Because of this I cant get into University (easily), and instead people who cant hold an intelligent conversation with a brick wall, get places in the course their mummy and daddy wanted them to get.

</rant>

 

[kami]

If you want to do advertising, than aim for UTS's B. Arts in Communication (Public Communication)...you then choose either the public relations or advertising stream. It's got a very good rep with the industry and is very practical. The UAI needed is around 92-93.

Um, thats not really how it works - Public Communications is exactly that, there are no separate PR or Advertising streams, you do have advertising subjects though. You can however do both advertising and marketing as majors in the BBus at UTS.

 

[The_Apprentice]

Wrong.
C10098v2 Bachelor of Arts in Communication (Public Communication)

Course program

Example programs in each of the two possible streams for a student commencing in Autumn semester are given below

Public Relations streamYear 1Autumn semesterSTM90387 50105 Communication and Information Environments 6cp 50107 Contemporary Cultures 1 6cp 50109 Power and Change in Australia 6cpSTM90381 50495 Research and Writing for Public Communication 6cpSpring semesterSTM90381 50118 Public Communication Processes 6cpSTM90387 50106 Media, Information and Society 6cp 50108 Contemporary Cultures 2 6cp 50111 Colonialism and Modernity 6cpYear 2Autumn semesterSTM90381 50480 Conceptual Frameworks for Public Communication 8cpSTM90363 50159 Public Relations Principles 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpSpring semesterSTM90381 50125 Communication and Audience 8cpSTM90363 50160 Public Relations Strategies 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpYear 3Autumn semesterSTM90381 50483 Strategic Organisational Communication 8cpSTM90363 50499 Public Relations Contexts and Applications 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpSpring semesterCBK90019 200/300-level Disciplinary choice 8cpSTM90363 50650 Public Relations Professional Practice 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cp

Advertising streamYear 1Autumn semesterSTM90387 50105 Communication and Information Environments 6cp 50107 Contemporary Cultures 1 6cp 50109 Power and Change in Australia 6cpSTM90381 50495 Research and Writing for Public Communication 6cpSpring semesterSTM90381 50118 Public Communication Processes 6cpSTM90387 50106 Media, Information and Society 6cp 50108 Contemporary Cultures 2 6cp 50111 Colonialism and Modernity 6cpYear 2Autumn semesterSTM90381 50480 Conceptual Frameworks for Public Communication 8cpSTM90362 50497 Advertising Principles and Production 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpSpring semesterSTM90381 50125 Communication and Audience 8cpSTM90362 50498 Advertising Creative Strategies 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpYear 3Autumn semesterSTM90381 50483 Strategic Organisational Communication 8cpSTM90362 50651 Strategic Advertising Contexts and Applications 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cpSpring semesterCBK90019 200/300-level Disciplinary choice 8cpSTM90362 50652 Advertising Professional Practice 8cpSelect 8 credit points of electives 8cp

 

[kami]

Wrong.

You will note that first year of both streams are identical, second year is nearly completely identical, same with third year - there are simply some subjects you choose out of a pool which can include advertising and pr subjects and ones that cross over. The degree is fundamentally the same either way, and shouldn't be mistaken as two distinct programs.

Which is essentially what I said previously.

 

[The_Apprentice]

i got confused when u said there are no streams. I was about to do this degree so I remember doing heaps of research about it. I know its the same degree, but basically u choose to specialise in either public relations or advertising. Is that it?

 

[kami]

i got confused when u said there are no streams. I was about to do this degree so I remember doing heaps of research about it. I know its the same degree, but basically u choose to specialise in either public relations or advertising. Is that it?

Sort of, its just that you can choose to do more subjects in one than the other. Like say in my Communications degree, I can choose to do more units on screenwriting than prose. In all practicality its not that big of a divide as its still from your proffessional strand(Pub Com in this case) in the end.

 

[lug]

I am considering CSU, bathurst to do advertising - i heard that they have a great course and they also have an on campus advertising agency which sounds really cool cos apparently you get to work for real clients and shit...

i heard that UTS is pretty shit cos not only do you need to get about 100 percent you also dont get any hands on experience (and it is not even a specific advertising degree)...

any more suggestions????

 

[gotmilk]

This is what fucking shits me. The UAI is not a fair way to judge entry.
I didnt do well in my HSC year. I had a few problems along the way.
Because of this I cant get into University (easily), and instead people who cant hold an intelligent conversation with a brick wall, get places in the course their mummy and daddy wanted them to get.

</rant>

can you think of a fairer way? perhaps coffee with the uac board?

 

[The_Apprentice]

I am considering CSU, bathurst to do advertising - i heard that they have a great course and they also have an on campus advertising agency which sounds really cool cos apparently you get to work for real clients and shit...

i heard that UTS is pretty shit cos not only do you need to get about 100 percent you also dont get any hands on experience (and it is not even a specific advertising degree)...

any more suggestions????

CSU; Yep they have Kajulu Communications (I think thats what its called). They won this cool international student advertsing competition (competing against international unis from USA, Uk etc) several years in a row now. It is a very practical course. I went down to Bathurst for a campus tour and they just upgraded some of their facilities for communications courses, so thats pretty sweet.

UTS; erm, my careers advisor really pushed me to do this course. I assume u're refering to the Public Communications course? Or B. Business? You should probably get more info on this one because it has a good rep and is practical. From what I remember, you do get hands on experience at some stage in this course.
What do mean "you need to get about 100 percent"? In terms of UAI, its 92-93. Its a reflection of the popularity and demand for this course.