Woman raped for reading the Bible (2 Viewers)

[Serius]

how is it Islam?

This has nothing to do with the religion allowing this, its just a plain pathetic old horny guy who thinks he knows what he is doing.

Hope he dies is gaol! Stupid idiot.

Muslims: responsible for the worst gang rape australia has ever seen.

This sounds like pretty typical muslim behaviour to me.

Using rape as a tool of punishment? check.

The crime was [in the eyes of the rapist] attempting to leave is islam, which under islamic law can be punishable by death. The only reason why he didnt outright kill her is because she hadnt left yet, only read the bible and hung out with some christians.

Just listen to the crime, sound like an honour crime to you? well thats probably because it is.

Luckily in australia this guy is a minority. Still i would hate to see what would be going on if a whole bunch of muslim women decided to leave islam.

 

[withoutaface]

DILLIGAF what you think?


FANATIC.

Niggah whut?

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

Muslims: responsible for the worst gang rape australia has ever seen.

So by your logic, all those whose ancestors were criminals are /should be classified as criminals? So all the Anglo Saxons in this country are... or does this just relate to Muslims?

How about the Germans? If there's a rapist in a country then the whole country are rapists? If there's a murderer then all are murderers? etc..

As for the worst rape, the sentence was cut down coz the judge thought it wasnt the worst case, and i see Anita corbys case as far worse. http://www.thecrimeweb.com/murder_of_anita_cobby.htm

This sounds like pretty typical muslim behaviour to me.

Oh so true!! Oh wait ...what is this 'typical muslim behaviour you speak of?

Using rape as a tool of punishment? check.

Oh yes how did i forget! In Islam, its forbidden to have sex before marriage, and to commit adultery, but...rape thats a different story as long as its rape its fine!

where in the quran does it allow women to be raped?

The crime was [in the eyes of the rapist] attempting to leave is islam, which under islamic law can be punishable by death. The only reason why he didnt outright kill her is because she hadnt left yet, only read the bible and hung out with some christians.

I've read some of the bible, nothing happened to me. Whys that?! Because it has nothing to do with religion. As for the whole changing religions thing, that only happens in Islamic countries. Once again rape isnt permitted in Islam.

Just listen to the crime, sound like an honour crime to you? well thats probably because it is.

No it doesnt. And thats because it isnt. Why would it be classified as an 'honour crime'? If it was, he most likely would have killed her, not raped her.

Luckily in australia this guy is a minority. Still i would hate to see what would be going on if a whole bunch of muslim women decided to leave islam.

This has nothing to do with gender. Men and women are treated equally in Islam. This may not be the case in some Islamic countries, but in the Quran they both receive the same punishment.

And in Islam, the punishment for a rapist i death, so i dont see how this is in any way 'honourable'

And theres is a thread about Islam, you have a question, go there and someone will answer.

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

How does it? There still are criminals in Australia. Same crap.

Just because its a religion, doesnt mean all followers are the same. Also as i have said [more than 50 times already] that the religion doesnt encourage this, and their is a punishment forit. So why blame the religion?

 

[sam04u]

I've read most of the bible. And went to christian camps. Nobody has raped me yet. (I'm muslim)

 

[iamsickofyear12]

Nobody has raped me yet. (I'm muslim)

That's unfortunate.

 

[sam04u]

That's unfortunate.

Not as unfortunate as your mother being fertile some 20 years ago.

 

[fffffman]

because it causes the most problems to de oil supply

kkthxbye

oil is used to burn jews like you cunt

 

[lexie85]

their culture changes over the yrs

Does yours?

'muslim' isnt a culture

 

[Serius]

no but "arab" is... or even "middle eastern" and guess what? that area is controlled by islam.

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

So, it still has NOTHING to do with the rape as a punishment in Islam. And most likely 'Arabs' and those in the middle east dont rape people -for a punishment :|

So unless you can prove that the whole cutlure/religion encourages it, then you still got nothing.

 

[lexie85]

no but "arab" is... or even "middle eastern" and guess what? that area is controlled by islam.

but their not the only muslims...wait i dont even get what the point is

 

[MaNiElla]

no but "arab" is... or even "middle eastern" and guess what? that area is controlled by islam.

lol, seriously, do you know what a culture is? How can "arab" or "middle eastern" be a culture?? LMAO

cul·ture
1.the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.



2- The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/culture

There you go, thats ^^ what the word "culture" means.

on the other hand, "arabs" and "middle eastern" are a group of people. Do you see people calling "the australians" or "the americans" a "culture"? lol.

 

[xeuyrawp]

lol, seriously, do you know what a culture is? How can "arab" or "middle eastern" be a culture?? LMAO

Arab is a culture!

1. Same language,
2. same religion, philosophy, values, ideologies, etc
3. same ethnicity,
4. same technologies, aesthetics, etc
5. etc.

There is such a thing as the global Arab culture.

Do you see people calling "the australians" or "the americans" a "culture"? lol.

Yes! There is certainly an Australian and an American culture. We share a similar culture (language, religion, etc), but we have also sub-cultures - just like the Arab community.

Thus both the Arab community and the Australian-American-British-NZ-etc community are both cultures with respective subcultures.

This is an interesting point, because it's my view that religions develop out of cultures (duh). When this happens, the religion initially reflects or is transformed into an image of culture.

Thus I think it is unfair to label Muslims, but fair to label the Arab community. It is contingent upon the fact that most Arabs are Muslims that people label Muslims as 'violent'. It is in fact Arabs who are violent, not Muslims -- I could theologically convert to Islam, and that would be fine. However it would not be until I descended into the hideous Arab culture that I became a violent person, like many of the Western converts to Islam (David Hicks et al).

Nobody could deny that Hicks and other Brits/Aussies/American converts are violent. Yet most of them are white and 'not part of the culture'? Well they are part of the culture. This is because when we talk about a culture, ethnicity is just one part of it - and contingent upon the fact that people stay still geographically - by and large, most Arabs are part of the Arab ethnicity (an ethnographer could be specific). However, foreigners can enter a culture other than their own. See sucessful white rap artists as an example.

Essentially, you're definitely wrong about culture. And, in my opinion, a lot of other people in this thread are wrong about religion, and should be looking more broadly at Arab culture.

 

[jawadAK47]

this idiot, no wait criminal (to say the least) is not idolised or even encouraged for his actions by islam..... ok he is born muslim, with a muslim name, but he aint a true muslim.. god does the judgin, but this is guy is looked down upon by true muslims for such actions. take a car colliding with a tree and causing the death of the ppl inside. its not the car thats bad, but the inferior driving. same with ppl lyk this, it is not his religion that decides these sort of actions but the person themself. im sure had he been a christian or a jew, his religion would hav neva been brought up... and rightly so... i wish islam was treated the same... i guess thats wat happens wen those in power, or those hoo lyk to speak up, succomb to the media's propaganda so easily

 

[MaNiElla]

Arab is a culture!

1. Same language,
2. same religion, philosophy, values, ideologies, etc
3. same ethnicity,
4. same technologies, aesthetics, etc
5. etc.

There is such a thing as the global Arab culture.


Yes! There is certainly an Australian and an American culture. We share a similar culture (language, religion, etc), but we have also sub-cultures - just like the Arab community.

Thus both the Arab community and the Australian-American-British-NZ-etc community are both cultures with respective subcultures.

This is an interesting point, because it's my view that religions develop out of cultures (duh). When this happens, the religion initially reflects or is transformed into an image of culture.

Yes arabs have a culture, and as you said there is something called the global arab culture. But what i told the guy in my other post is that, the word "arabs" or "arab" means a group of people and not a culture. A person can say Im australian, but one cant say that "Australian" is a culture, but they can say im australian and i have a australian culture.

I kind of think that you didnt really get what my previous post meant.

Thus I think it is unfair to label Muslims, but fair to label the Arab community. It is contingent upon the fact that most Arabs are Muslims that people label Muslims as 'violent'. It is in fact Arabs who are violent, not Muslims -- I could theologically convert to Islam, and that would be fine. However it would not be until I descended into the hideous Arab culture that I became a violent person, like many of the Western converts to Islam (David Hicks et al).

Nobody could deny that Hicks and other Brits/Aussies/American converts are violent. Yet most of them are white and 'not part of the culture'? Well they are part of the culture. This is because when we talk about a culture, ethnicity is just one part of it - and contingent upon the fact that people stay still geographically - by and large, most Arabs are part of the Arab ethnicity (an ethnographer could be specific). However, foreigners can enter a culture other than their own. See sucessful white rap artists as an example

No, if a white guy converts to islam, he wouldnt become violent. David hicks, chose that path, he went looking for those groups that he associated himself with. he was violent even before he converted to islam. SO its not islam, that made him the person who he is now (in your case a violent person).

His parents described him as a "typical boy who couldn't settle down" and, as a teenager, he experimented with drink and drugs and was expelled from school at 14.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3044386.stm

You can read this interview with he's parents and wife, and they say how he was while at school, and beofre he converted.

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/transcript_998.asp


Therefore, its not islam that made him violent. He was lost and confused throughout his life, when he was a christian, or whatever religion he was. Therefore, any white convert to islam, can still be a nice, peaceful person, if they dont go around looking for trouble.

Essentially, you're definitely wrong about culture. And, in my opinion, a lot of other people in this thread are wrong about religion, and should be looking more broadly at Arab culture.

No, as far as im concerned, im not wrong about culture

 

[Aryanbeauty]

How does it? There still are criminals in Australia. Same crap.

Just because its a religion, doesnt mean all followers are the same. Also as i have said [more than 50 times already] that the religion doesnt encourage this, and their is a punishment forit. So why blame the religion?

You are contradicted by his own believe as found by the Judge. It is said

Judge Knox found the offender believed the sexual assault was justified because the woman was considered an "infidel" for reading the Bible and associating with Christians.

Does that word sound familiar to you? And yes this is consistent with Islam.

 

[$hiftyIceQueen]

And you are saying this guy, who raped a woman [which is forbidden in Islam] knows more about Islam than me, because ...

It isnt 'consistent with Islam'

Why dont you show where it says in the Quran to rape a woman if she reads the Bible?! Because it doesnt, you wont find anything. Therefore it has NOTHING to do with the religion.

 

[xeuyrawp]

Yes arabs have a culture,

vs:

How can "arab" or "middle eastern" be a culture??

The Arabs have a culture because there is such a thing as an Arab culture.

You've totally contradicted yourself. Good work.

the word "arabs" or "arab" means a group of people and not a culture.

Generally a group of people will have a culture?

There is such a thing as the Arab culture - it's what separates the Arab world geographically to the Arab world culturally. Saudi Arabia, for example, is both Arab culturally and geographically. Northern Africa is Arab culturally but not geographically.

Perfect example (excuse the obvious shitness of the image's point):

. Whilst a few of those countries can be considered geographically part of the Arab community, they are all part of the Arab culture. I would also add southern Spain to it, but that's just me.

Therefore Arab is broad term denoting, as wikipedia states:

'An Arab (Arabic: عرب ) is any member of the Semitic peoples who speak Arabic and whose cultural, linguistic, and in some cases, ancestral origins trace back to the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula.'

Like I said in my original post:
- Culture,
- language,
- ethnicity.