Do people exaggerate the difficulty of the HSC? (2 Viewers)

[Schoey93]

Well it all depends on your career aspirations? Surgery, internal medicine, gp or another more esoteric specialty?

Please don't say career
Makes me regret not being born as an islander who has no concept of work lol but true.


I would like to be a General Practitioner first, and then after about a decade of practice+ research for a Doctorate in Medicine I would like to retrain as an obstetrician

Because my obstetrician circumcised me and my life changed... I want to prevent that happening to other babies who don't know any different.

 

[Schoey93]

this and this.

I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating anything already said, but I really wanted to reply after reading the thread title...

HSC isn't difficult. Each year of high school gradually increases in difficulty (generally), and Year 11 and 12 are no different. I think if you're naturally intelligent, you can get by on very little study/effort.

But in general - you don't have to be a genius to do well.
Like jetblack said - effort = results.
It's a memory game (maybe not in maths...), and in a sense it's a test of mental strength (i.e. how well you deal with the constant pressure)

HSC is a massive nothing. Having just finished, I learnt how truly meaningless it is the very second you finish your last exam. Ok, you need it to get into future education pathways, but there are clearly many alternatives and "side doors for entry" as I've been told so many times.

But still do your best - it's fantastic practise, and you learn some invaluable coping/studying mechanisms for later in life.
Just don't go stabbing yourself in the eyes with a pencil, it's not THAT big a deal!

Best of luck with your HSC =)

awww that's soo nice! Thank you

 

[jet]

Please don't say career
Makes me regret not being born as an islander who has no concept of work lol but true.


I would like to be a General Practitioner first, and then after about a decade of practice+ research for a Doctorate in Medicine I would like to retrain as an obstetrician

Because my obstetrician circumcised me and my life changed... I want to prevent that happening to other babies who don't know any different

Well, you might just like to think about doing obstetrics straight away. Because your career path would go like this:

- 5 years university
- 1 year internship
- At least one other year where you satisfy all the other miniscule requirements to enter the AGPT program
- 3 years training
- 10 years in general practice + research for doctorate
- Possibly a year satisfying requirements for RANZCOG
- 6 years training for Obstetrics and Gynaecology + another 3 years if you want to sub-specialise.

From what you mentioned about going to UWS/UNCLE for their short program, it just doesn't seem worth it for you.

And this is assuming you get in on your first try.

 

[x jiim]

Because my obstetrician circumcised me and my life changed... I want to prevent that happening to other babies who don't know any different.

Besides that being quite a case of TMI, as an obstetrician wouldn't you still have to comply with the parents' wishes about the matter? I mean, are you actually allowed to go 'no, I won't circumcise your child because I was circumcised and I am still bitter about it/have strong moral objections to the matter.'? o_o

Back on topic, I don't suppose we'd really know if it's exaggerated until we actually finish it. I looked at some past papers before and they freaked me out, but that could just be me [or my subjects. damn 4u maths ><].

 

[jet]

Besides that being quite a case of TMI, as an obstetrician wouldn't you still have to comply with the parents' wishes about the matter? I mean, are you actually allowed to go 'no, I won't circumcise your child because I was circumcised and I am still bitter about it/have strong moral objections to the matter.'? o_o

Back on topic, I don't suppose we'd really know if it's exaggerated until we actually finish it. I looked at some past papers before and they freaked me out, but that could just be me [or my subjects. damn 4u maths ><].

I'm quite sure doctors have the right to refer them to somebody else if they find a treatment ethically wrong.

 

[ninetypercent]

we exaggerate coz we're stressed out, but its not actually as hard as we say it is.

 

[CecilyMare]

It is hard. Especially in english where they slack you off for yr 11 and then expect you do heaps and heaps in yr 12.

 

[Aerath]

I think the law call was for the 99.95ers? Is the breakfast on the 5th Jan? I'm going to that one.

I'll see you there.

 

[sydneyphoenix]

Well it all depends on your career aspirations? Surgery, internal medicine, gp or another more esoteric specialty?

What exactly are you implying, that one some specialties you mentioned are not as important or good as the other? Or could this be about the commonly-held belief that the University from which you studied Medicine has a significant bearing in your future specialisation?

 

[sydneyphoenix]

Please don't say career
Makes me regret not being born as an islander who has no concept of work lol but true.


I would like to be a General Practitioner first, and then after about a decade of practice+ research for a Doctorate in Medicine I would like to retrain as an obstetrician

Because my obstetrician circumcised me and my life changed... I want to prevent that happening to other babies who don't know any different.

I agree with Jetblack2007 on this, double specialisation in GP and then in obsterics is not very viable, unless you have a really strong passion in both. Not even mentioning the length of training involved, would you be happy to go back to being a trainee at mercy of the brass after spending years in your own medical practice? From what I can see and hear, the most common double specialisation involves General Practitioner (RACGP) or Physician (RACP) undertaking extra training through one of the faculties or chapters of RACP (I think there are four at the moment), and only then the training for both are concurrent in many cases.

 

[Eddykungfu]

If you are expecting it to be School certificate standard.. think again.

Its a lot harder than that, but not impossible.

 

[lisl]

sc is a piece of .
such a waste of time.
dont even begin to compare it to the hsc.
v different.

 

[Schoey93]

You can say shit. This isn't radio; it's the NET!@$#%#

SHIT SHIT

 

[Schoey93]

General Maths. I have four words. General Maths. Standard English.

With those 4 units. Your HSC should be a total total BREEZE
Plus coz of the awesome Standard English scaling in Band 5-6 you get better ranks from it than Advanced people have said (just a rumour... bwahahaha I'm wicked.)

 

[Schoey93]

Just putting this out there (it's related to obstetrics and urology BTW)

I hav recently restored/grow back by tissue expansion/"stretchin" my foreskin. I know this post might get deleted and good on you mods if you do, it's off topic after all but:
BOY WAS I MISSIN SOMEFINK!


I honestly recommend foreskins to any circumcised men. Restoration is possible-there is a cure for you mutilation./end rant

 

[Schoey93]

And if you say "foreskins are obsolete" you are most definitely wrong. Foreskin and foreskin remnant on circumcised men is the most sensitive part of the male body. Not at all like "wisdom teeth and appendixes".

Some interesting facts about the 'benefits of circumcision' according to RACP and Circumcision in Australia | Circinfo.org

Please do NOT refer to the more bias CIRCUMCISION: An Evidence-Based Appraisal

Brian Morris is a professor but not a Medical Practitioner. He has no clue what he is talking about. He lectures on circumcision yet he has not thoroughly+properly researched it.


FACTS:
0) Circumcising 500 boys only saves FOUR from a UTI
1) One if five MEN is circumcised (over 18s) -> ie 20% of men only. Other 80% were born without a foreskin, or more commonly, INTACT.
2) I'm not spamming. This is dead interesting. To me and others.
3) Circumcision only lower HIV/AIDS risk by about 25% and when an intact man (a Tom lol) wears a condom his risk is completely gone if properly used.
4) Urine kills the bacteria in smegma (a maladorous film built up of dirt and bacteria in the foreskin). Anyway, I know from experience that most of these bacteria are completely harmless.

5) Have you ever met a man, e.g. Ben Affleck who was circumcised as an adult? These men have experienced sex both ways and almost all of them report to be unhappy with their circumcision. Ben Affleck has actually publicly said he dislikes it and wishes he was "normal again".

NORM - The National Organization of Restoring Men OR cheers din norm data entry at norm.com

 

[Schoey93]

And UWS is closest as you can see; I'm from GWS. So the ATAR cutoff for me is 93. But I'm aiming for 95.00. And also, UMAT would be good for me, I like IQ an EQ *emotional intelligence quota* tests. They're impossible to effectively prepare for so you just go in there after examining a few practice questions on ACER, UMAT website


Then well off you go to UMAT in June-July, and you're set. Only takes 3-6 hours out of your day too. And I'll be able to have a learner driver lesson to get there. As by then I aim to have about 100 h (required amount due to "licenced driving instructors" rule)

So UWS is sweet as it's what I want to do, where I want to do, only five years' time just like University of Newcastle/New England Uni B Med


To summarise: Medicine - does not matter where u go as long as it's an accredited, registered whatever Australian/European/US developed world degree. I would stay away from Asian medicine but I just think Asians are crazy maths freaks and the degree would be too mathematical compared to the more straight-clinical sciences practical approach in Europe and Australia. united states is shit too, it may be a well recognised degree but US education is a shithole =p IMO anyways./I just hate everythink about America

Too lame. Too conservative. Too voting for Bush and illegally electing him. Too Dick Cheney redneck Canadian hating gun-wielding, YANKS ...or put better WANKS. ]P

;P JOKES ... kinda.

 

[Schoey93]

Oh and if you were interested in my uni preferences whoever 'twas:

1. UWS Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery (MB,BS)
2. UNCLE B Med
3. UNSW MB BS
4. JCU MB BS
5. Bachelor of Nursing/BA in International Studies (Italy) @ UTS - ATAR 86.45
6. Bachelor of Applied Science (OT) @ USYD ATAR 86.45
7. B App Sci (physio)
8. B App Sci (Speech Pathology) at USYD, like physio
9. BA in Interpreting&Translation (Spanish) at UWS Bankstown LMAO I'd put up with my wallet being snatched I guess!

ETA: 1st preference ATAR= 93.00
last preference ATAR = 73.05, but you must first be fluent/native in the language before commencing or shortly after, i.e. "Our exams require you to achieve 70% in every speaking and listening test as the pass mark"

 

[sydneyphoenix]

Oh and if you were interested in my uni preferences whoever 'twas:

1. UWS Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery (MB,BS)
2. UNCLE B Med
3. UNSW MB BS
4. JCU MB BS
5. Bachelor of Nursing/BA in International Studies (Italy) @ UTS - ATAR 86.45
6. Bachelor of Applied Science (OT) @ USYD ATAR 86.45
7. B App Sci (physio)
8. B App Sci (Speech Pathology) at USYD, like physio
9. BA in Interpreting&Translation (Spanish) at UWS Bankstown LMAO I'd put up with my wallet being snatched I guess!

ETA: 1st preference ATAR= 93.00
last preference ATAR = 73.05, but you must first be fluent/native in the language before commencing or shortly after, i.e. "Our exams require you to achieve 70% in every speaking and listening test as the pass mark"

Given your residence in GWS areas, that's going to be roughly the way I would do it. As to whether to put UNCLE or UNSW higher, that depends on your priority. If you think you are strong in interviews and did well, you probably stand better chance there (since their policy is that once you get an interview, that alone is only qualifier in ranking the applicant), but if your strength is in UMAT and/or HSC marks (do they still have 95+ UAI/ATAR requirement?), go for UNSW.

One thing to consider is distance as well-UNSW will probably be closer to you, but if you live in certain parts of Sydney (say Richmond), it won't make much difference since it will be hard yakka for you to travel everyday. Medicine is not an ideal degree to study when you spend 4+ hour each day travelling. Good luck in final selections and offers.

P.S. I am wondering if we are going right off-topic, surprised they aren't tossing our discussion here out of the thread!!

 

[Schoey93]

I think my preferences are better now.

1. MB BS (UWS)
2. MB BS (UNSW)
3. B Med (Newcastle University & UNE)
4. MB BS (JCU)
5. MB BS (Monash University)
6. B App Sci (Phty) (USyd)
7. B App Sci (OT) (USyd)
8. B.N. (UTS-Kuringai)
9. B Sci (UWS).