my ATAR??? (2 Viewers)

[humbenj]

do my subjects scale well?

i do:

2u maths
2u SOR
adv english
ancient history
economics

its only 10 units

but im aiming for an ATAR of around 84-85.

i was wondering how well these scale?
and how well would i have to do in them to get that score?

 

[Dragonmaster262]

Re: do my subjects scale well?

They scale fine. Your aim should be easily obtained.

 

[annabackwards]

Re: do my subjects scale well?

Your subjects scale ok - not good or great by any means aside from economics. But an ATAR of 90 is achievable with your subjects and the higher your marks, the less scaling will matter. Just work smart and with a little luck you'll get your ATAR aim

 

[adriano_negr0]

Re: do my subjects scale well?

i think that SOR 2 unit and economics scale well
the others scale average

go to the matrix atar calculator and type in afew scores for ur subs and play around with it abit

 

[humbenj]

still confused about the HSC???

my school kind of sucks at explaining what happens with the HSC.

i do 10 units (2u maths, adv eng, ancient history, economics and 2u SOR)
i only got 60% in the first assessment in both english and ancient history (but that was about the average mark for both)
and i only got 67% in my first maths assessment (i beat the average)

they were all worth 15% but i heard somewhere that, that is only 7.5% or something in the end.

my schools tests are said to be about 10-15% harder than those of the rest of the state.

i was disappointed with my marks, however i know i am 6th in my class for maths (like 18th/60-65) and i can do better (thats EXCLUDING 3u boys)
likewise, in english i am ranked around 15th-25th/92 out of the adv boys, excluding the extension students.

i am aiming at around 84+ ATAR

so i have a few questions:
- does someones ATAR include them against extension students (in like maths and english) when it comes to scaling?
- because my school is supposedly 10-15% harder than some others will that be taken into account?

thanks

 

[theism]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

my school kind of sucks at explaining what happens with the HSC.

i do 10 units (2u maths, adv eng, ancient history, economics and 2u SOR)
i only got 60% in the first assessment in both english and ancient history (but that was about the average mark for both)
and i only got 67% in my first maths assessment (i beat the average)

they were all worth 15% but i heard somewhere that, that is only 7.5% or something in the end.

my schools tests are said to be about 10-15% harder than those of the rest of the state.

i was disappointed with my marks, however i know i am 6th in my class for maths (like 18th/60-65) and i can do better (thats EXCLUDING 3u boys)
likewise, in english i am ranked around 15th-25th/92 out of the adv boys, excluding the extension students.

i am aiming at around 84+ ATAR

so i have a few questions:
- does someones ATAR include them against extension students (in like maths and english) when it comes to scaling?
- because my school is supposedly 10-15% harder than some others will that be taken into account?

thanks

1. no, except in english where its your 'best 2 units of english'.
2. your marks dont really count, it's what your rank is.
just make sure you have a high rank, and study your arse off for the HSC exam

 

[Mature Lamb]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

my school kind of sucks at explaining what happens with the HSC.

i do 10 units (2u maths, adv eng, ancient history, economics and 2u SOR)
i only got 60% in the first assessment in both english and ancient history (but that was about the average mark for both)
and i only got 67% in my first maths assessment (i beat the average)

they were all worth 15% but i heard somewhere that, that is only 7.5% or something in the end.

my schools tests are said to be about 10-15% harder than those of the rest of the state.

i was disappointed with my marks, however i know i am 6th in my class for maths (like 18th/60-65) and i can do better (thats EXCLUDING 3u boys)
likewise, in english i am ranked around 15th-25th/92 out of the adv boys, excluding the extension students.

i am aiming at around 84+ ATAR

so i have a few questions:
- does someones ATAR include them against extension students (in like maths and english) when it comes to scaling?
- because my school is supposedly 10-15% harder than some others will that be taken into account?

thanks

In the end, your results are 50% internal assessments, and 50% external exams.

Or something like that. =]

 

[ajdlinux]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

- because my school is supposedly 10-15% harder than some others will that be taken into account?

This is accounted for through a process called moderation - there's a rather detailed explanation of it over at http://community.boredofstudies.org...na/6642/explanation-hsc-marks-moderating.html if you want to know more. As others have said, your rank is more important than your exact assessment marks.

 

[humbenj]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

This is accounted for through a process called moderation - there's a rather detailed explanation of it over at http://community.boredofstudies.org...na/6642/explanation-hsc-marks-moderating.html if you want to know more. As others have said, your rank is more important than your exact assessment marks.

does that mean my rank in the state or my rank within my school?

 

[theism]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

does that mean my rank in the state or my rank within my school?

rank within the school.

rank within the state also matters, but not as much

 

[ilikebeeef]

Re: do my subjects scale well?

i do:

2u maths
2u SOR
adv english
ancient history
economics

its only 10 units

but im aiming for an ATAR of around 84-85.

i was wondering how well these scale?
and how well would i have to do in them to get that score?

They scale well enough. Work with decent effort in them and you'll be fine.

 

[humbenj]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

rank within the school.

rank within the state also matters, but not as much

but on that, if my school is setting tests that are say 10-15% harder than most of the state then shouldn't we be scaled in respect to school as well?

or what does the school part mean, because i heard somewhere that if you are like at a school, who set tests which are harder than another school, shouldn't that be taken into account?

 

[ilikebeeef]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

but on that, if my school is setting tests that are say 10-15% harder than most of the state then shouldn't we be scaled in respect to school as well?

or what does the school part mean, because i heard somewhere that if you are like at a school, who set tests which are harder than another school, shouldn't that be taken into account?

The BOS takes your school cohort's HSC results and uses the ranks to allocate the assessment marks.

 

[Tofuu]

Re: do my subjects scale well?

i do:

2u maths
2u SOR
adv english
ancient history
economics

its only 10 units

but im aiming for an ATAR of around 84-85.

i was wondering how well these scale?
and how well would i have to do in them to get that score?

your subjects are decent in terms of scaling (eco has pretty good scaling)
you prob only need mid band 5 in each to get 84-85 ATAR

 

[Tofuu]

Re: still confused about the HSC???

my school kind of sucks at explaining what happens with the HSC.

i do 10 units (2u maths, adv eng, ancient history, economics and 2u SOR)
i only got 60% in the first assessment in both english and ancient history (but that was about the average mark for both)
and i only got 67% in my first maths assessment (i beat the average)

they were all worth 15% but i heard somewhere that, that is only 7.5% or something in the end.

my schools tests are said to be about 10-15% harder than those of the rest of the state.

i was disappointed with my marks, however i know i am 6th in my class for maths (like 18th/60-65) and i can do better (thats EXCLUDING 3u boys)
likewise, in english i am ranked around 15th-25th/92 out of the adv boys, excluding the extension students.

i am aiming at around 84+ ATAR

so i have a few questions:
- does someones ATAR include them against extension students (in like maths and english) when it comes to scaling?
- because my school is supposedly 10-15% harder than some others will that be taken into account?

thanks

the marks do not matter, ranks internally do
its because they take into consideration the different difficulties tests in school have (since they're different)

 

[humbenj]

how hard is it to get an ATAR of 84+ if your school is about 10% harder than what state exams are and if you about an average student there?

my school is 18th in the state for english, so im guessing like top 100 or something

 

[ValentinesM]

how hard is it to get an ATAR of 84+ if your school is about 10% harder than what state exams are and if you about an average student there?

just work as hard as you can, get the best ranking you can and your efforts will pay off when it comes to the ATAR. 84+ should be quite achievable then.

 

[ilikebeeef]

how hard is it to get an ATAR of 84+ if your school is about 10% harder than what state exams are and if you about an average student there?

The difficulty depends on the person. Some people may find it easier than others.

 

[EvoRevolution]

Ok will let me tell u this to make u fell better about the HSC. If u are doin hard subjects e.g. chem, phys, 4u, 3u, eng advanced and u get 70+ in chem, phy and eng and 80s in 4u and 3u... u will def get atar of 85 +. But if u r doin shit subjects then it is harder. For example one of my dads friends daughter did shiter sub then me, she go band 6s in most of her subj and i didnt get any 6s and i still bet here atar wise. So just work hard and you should easily get it.

 

[ilikebeeef]

Ok will let me tell u this to make u fell better about the HSC. If u are doin hard subjects e.g. chem, phys, 4u, 3u, eng advanced and u get 70+ in chem, phy and eng and 80s in 4u and 3u... u will def get atar of 85 +. But if u r doin shit subjects then it is harder. For example one of my dads friends daughter did shiter sub then me, she go band 6s in most of her subj and i didnt get any 6s and i still bet here atar wise. So just work hard and you should easily get it.

First of all you should not refer to low-scaling subjects as "shit", because the term is subjective. Sure, you may find some humanities not worth the scaling, but people who ace humanities won't have that experience. The difficulty of a certain subject for a person really depends on the person doing it, as I said in my previous post.

But otherwise you are right.