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So now that the UN have shown their true colours (once again) and ruled out military intervention in Libya, including a no-fly zone (which the USA has stated they would be able to enforce with their navy), what is going to happen in Libya?

"The army announced on state television last night that it was preparing to reclaim Benghazi. "The armed forces are arriving to ensure your security, undo the injustice done to you, protect you, restore calm and bring life back to normal," the statement said. In a television address, Col Gaddafi said "we are determined to crush the enemy"."

The rebels are about to be crushed. It will be over by the end of the week. Gaddafi will regain his total power and people involved in the uprising will be brutalised.


The UK and France has expressed dismay at the reluctance of the other members of the UN security council to commit to an intervention. I am not well versed on how they would go about it but they only option i can see now is the UK and France staging their own intervention, possibly with American help. This is a big ask especially considering it would seem that this sort of thing is the whole reason the UN exists.

Fairly disillusioned atm.
 

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Brutalised is a very pc way to put this.

They're going to be fucking massacred.

They need so very little of our help to get past this and we're not going to give it to them.
 

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looks like gadaffi wasnt kidding about the immigrant refugee flows to sthrn europe

say what you want about him but the boss man gadaffi clearly just showed us how to take down an uprising

thats some fucking pro dictatorshipping right there
 

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the UN would have helped

but they were too busy condemning Israel
 

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uprising crusha hall of fame

marcus licinnius crassus
abraham lincoln
gadaffi

hall of shame

george III
romanov dynasty
 
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no, Bahrain knows how to take down an uprising. Gaddafi didnt act quickly enough. The Bahrainis are nipping this in the bud. with the help of a foreign army no less
 
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"Once again the UN is little more than a bystander in this disaster. NATO forces went into Serbia in 1999 without a UN mandate to restore peace. Why are they hesitating now to enter Libya without it? They can unilaterally invade Iraq but they can’t convince Germany to comply with a no-fly zone?"
 
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/16/libya-no-fly-zone-britain-us


""We are well aware that the clock is ticking," the secretary of state said as she praised the Arab League for its "courageous stand" over the weekend in calling for a no-fly zone.

But Clinton made clear the US was highly sceptical about the merits of a no-fly zone. Asked whether there was still time to impose one, she said: "There will be other things considered in addition to a no-fly zone. That will certainly be one of the actions considered. But there are other ways to assist the opposition. All of those are on the table and are being examined."

The secretary of state insisted that an international consensus was necessary as she made clear that no country – or no group of countries – could act alone. "It is important that we get international authorisation through the security council. This cannot be a unilateral action by anyone in Europe or the US or, frankly, anyone in the Arab League. It has to be international and authorised. And then we have to be very clear about what Arab leadership and participation will be.

"We want to get something that will do what needs to be done and can be passed. It won't do us any good to consult negotiate and then have something vetoed or not have enough votes to pass it.

"We are prepared to join an international consensus that comes out of the security council. It is important to underscore that unilateral action is not an option. International action must be the route we take."

The cautious stance of Clinton contrasted with Hague who raised the possibility of imposing a no-fly zone without authorisation from the UN. The foreign secretary told the Commons foreign affairs select committee: "Are there some circumstances in which countries have the right to act and it is legal even without a security council resolution? From all the legal advice I have received, there are circumstances."

Sir Menzies Campbell, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, asked Hague whether Britain accepted the doctrine of "duty to protect" which could be invoked without a new UN security council resolution if there is an overwhelming humanitarian need. Asked by Campbell whether the doctrine is on the table, Hague said: "It is on the table."

David Cameron urged leaders of countries with seats on the UN security council, most notably Barack Obama, to show some leadership. "Of course there are a wide range of views in the UN," the prime minister told MPs. "I urge all to take the right steps so that we show some leadership on this issue and make sure that we can get rid of this regime."
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let's find some old toyota utes to donate
 

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Brutalised is a very pc way to put this.

They're going to be fucking massacred.

They need so very little of our help to get past this and we're not going to give it to them.
You would like to see the international community intervene and chase him out? You?
 

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/17/un-resolution-libya-no-fly-zone

"The United Nations security council is planning to vote later on Thursday on a draft resolution that would not only introduce a no-fly zone over Libya but would authorise the use of air strikes to stop the advance of forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi.

The draft, supported by the US, Britain, France and Germany, reflects a shift by Washington, alarmed by the speed at which the uprising is collapsing and concerned at the possibility of a massacre in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi."


fucking do it you penks
 

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when gadaffi is deposed there'll be PEACE AND DEMOCRACY AND PROSPERITY IN LIBYA FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 

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Are you people supporting the uprising in Libya or against it? It is hard to tell from most of your ramblings.
 

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