There have been reports from the Federal Education Minister Peter Garrett that only those who achieve in the top 30% of NAPLAN results in Year 9 will be eligible for teaching university degrees.
Personally I think NAPLAN is a joke and shouldnt be given any confidence or respect in the real world. It should be the HSC-equivalent that gets attention of government to reform and improve where necessary. However yet again the education policy is driven by ignorant beaurocrats in air-conditioned offices that have no idea what really goes on in schools.
Any thoughts?
Agreed, it's a stupid arbitrary idea, plenty of people can be fuckwits in year 9 and come good later, the opposite is also very true.
why would anybody want to be a teacher
-regurgitate awful cultural marxist ideology to the next generation of suckers
-get paid fuck all
-low prestige job
-awful job work with boongs and other undesirables
teachers are the most incompetent fucks ever
First part I agree it's deplorable.
Money isn't that bad, depending on how money hungry you are of course.
Teaching is fairly reasonable on the prestige scale imo, though tbh who even really gives a fuck about that anyway.
Get paid holidays every 10 weeks without having to use your holiday pay.
Yeh but if you're doing it for that reason, if you dont fail you'll be a horrible teacher, hate your job and inevitably downward spiral to complete failure.
Well as one of the few people who actually has a teaching university degree I'll just share a few things I have observed:
- a lot of people training to be teachers right now, particularly in certain subject areas (you can go ahead and guess which) have really poor literacy skills and aren't too bright
- clearly ATAR is based on supply and demand alone but the above is a decent reason for why maybe there should be an absolute minimum standard in certain professions
- there IS cultural marxist stuff in the courses we do, but not that much...
- teachers will always get bashed by right wingers no matter what they do (see cosmo's post). The people in my cohort and subject were all smart, hard working passionate people who are probably doing a great job right now (again only one data point here)
- Raising scores probably won't help since as someone else pointed out, the highest achievers are unlikely to be attracted to teaching (although there's plenty of them there, but they're still the exception)
- Throwing more money at teachers probably won't help either, or at least it hasn't helped anywhere it's been tried.
imo having one centrally dictated syllabus/curriculum for all is a big problem because it means there's 0 choice in education (private/public is aesthetic differences only tbh), and the content/values of schools are squarely aimed at middle class white people. there's kids who won't ever, ever learn or be interested in anything that goes on at schools, and their parents and teachers don't really have any other options except to wait it out and hope they go to tafe or something. Like ZERO choice, as in, if you're 14 and still can't spell, too bad because you have to study Shakespeare now. Because middle class white people value Shakespeare.
I pretty much agree, though most of my cohort seem fairly capable but yes there are a number of complete fucktards as well (god I hope they fail).
m8 nearly every teacher in my school was shithouse
thats just my experience but they were really really lazy, shady fucks esp. the science department
My experience is that I only had one 'bad' teacher and she was a 4 foot filipino who had polio and no fucking clue about pedagogy whatsoever, no idea what her content knowledge was like but.
I'd be a teacher if it was guaranteed I would be teaching students that want to learn not fuckwits that will give me a hard time.
Part of the job is to engage the students and motivate them to want to learn and to not be fuckwits, I believe there are few kids who will fuck around provided you employ the right strategies (though I guess highschoolers (7-10) who dont wanna be there are gunna fuck up pretty much regardless).
iq testing is unncessary imo except in the case of identifying gifted students
school is just one big long iq test and you soon find out who the lazy fucks are and who the dumb fucks are etc.
let kids leave when theyre like 14 years old or something the disruptive shits have no use being around
by like first or second grade everybody knows who the failures are and can predict that fifteen years+ into the future with like 95% accuracy
Yeh, I believe kids should be allowed to leave when they wish (provided they're in high school), no use making them turn up against their will and having them cause unnecessary problems.
Plenty of people who are topping primary crash to the bottom in highschool and some real dumbfucks come out of no where, but yeh generally the good ones in primary continue to tear it up the whole way through.
