She shouldn't have dressed like a slut I guess (3 Viewers)

[Chemical Ali]

Re: Guess she shouldn't have dressed like a slut I guess

If every woman complaining about the pay gap dropped their "liberal arts" degree or part time job in a "trendy cafe", went to a remote mine site in western Australia and got an apprenticeship as a boilermaker, the gap would probably close

or they could just sit around and try to get the government to do it for them

 

[Riproot]

Wow. So women can't do maths, sexual assault is just as common between boths sexes and male control over women’s reproduction should override the controlwomen have over their own bodies?? I'm pretty sure they WOULD stop complaining if women could actually get abortions legally and freely - they can't, and that's why there's complaint.

The maths thing was clearly a joke (however true it may be), I didn't say they were the same I was just inferring that no stats you have could be anywhere near accurate, and no, I was stating that opposed to your "omfg women have no reproductive control!!!" that men have much less of a control over than and hence your argument about that shit was stupid.
Pretty sure abortions are legal, and of course they aren't free because the government wants a higher population and all goods and services cost money.
Also, how is that an inequality argument? I can't get an abortion anywhere in the world, hence women have more right than me and the world is unfair!!! D:

I feel sorry for your mother and every other human that has to come in contact with you. You seem to harbour some profound hatred and a repugnant sense of elitism and supremacy.

So do I, everyone that comes into contact with me has been pretty shit thus-far.
Of course I harbour a sense of hatred, the people are pretty shit. And how do you not because you've been posting happy-go-lucky shit all through this thread.

 

[Garygaz]

but....

fakefrench, why do you care about birth control, aren't you a lesbian?

 

[Blastus]

but....

fakefrench, why do you care about birth control, aren't you a lesbian?

solidarity m8

one day she might want taxpayer funded ivf and the choice to abort it

 

[thank_dentists]

I still feel that the questions over whether women dressing scantily increases chances of rape, and if some sort of non-sexual motives are really behind most rapes have been inadequately addressed.

 

[boris]

I still feel that the questions over whether women dressing scantily increases chances of rape, and if some sort of non-sexual motives are really behind most rapes have been inadequately addressed.

Do some research on it and post itt son
Asap

 

[thank_dentists]

I read somewhere that conjugal visits reduce prison rape.

 

[Fake French]

Identifying as queer doesn't reduce anyone's need or use for the contraceptive pill, it is used in a multitude of cases to treat PMDD, PCOS, irregularities, endometriotis and acne. So it's important for women of all financial classes, whether they're having sex or not.
Being queer also doesn't undermine my sex and the empathy and concern for the status of my gender.

Abortion in Australia is only legal for maternal life, rape, health, fetal defects, and/or mental health, and in QLD it is only legal for maternal life and health. Women can't have full choice over their bodies and have to 'earn' the right to abortion, proving their 'need'.

Back to the original topic, I think the sexist views expressed in this thread provide a real understanding of why rape occurs, because as you have all said, women are viewed as "inferior" within society.

Rape is caused by rape culture and misogyny, NOT the clothes women wear.

 

[Riproot]

Identifying as queer doesn't reduce anyone's need or use for the contraceptive pill, it is used in a multitude of cases to treat PMDD, PCOS, irregularities, endometriotis and acne. So it's important for women of all financial classes, whether they're having sex or not.
Being queer also doesn't undermine my sex and the empathy and concern for the status of my gender.

Pretty sure you said "reproductive control" and this is not that, your points are pretty all over the shop.

Abortion in Australia is only legal for maternal life, rape, health, fetal defects, and/or mental health, and in QLD it is only legal for maternal life and health. Women can't have full choice over their bodies and have to 'earn' the right to abortion, proving their 'need'.

Well, as a male I can't get an abortion at all, even if my foetus did have a mental defect.
How is that equality?!
But seriously, what your saying has nothing to do with "reproductive control" relating to "equality" so I have no idea what you're going on about.

Rape is caused by rape culture and misogyny, NOT the clothes women wear.

it's more caused by sexual depravity and mental instability imo.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

So you are completely discounting the possibility that it may have any impact at all?

I'm not saying it does but surely unless ~something~ definitively proves (or even reasonably indicates) otherwise, there's nothing wrong with saying that there's a mere possibility that it could contribute, even in a minor way.

I'd suspect that the motives differ somewhat for each offender and in some cases it could potentially be a tipping point.

it's more caused by sexual depravity and mental instability imo.

Yeh something along these lines most probably.

 

[Shadowdude]

good to see shadowdude has progressed from timid beta to bitter virgin to an actively aggressive misogynist

we all know what the next step is

I'm not an actively aggressive misogynist. Girls are great. <_<

Yeah, I think you were right. If she had dressed properly, none of these would have happen to her

Why, thank you for adding to the intelligent discussion with that thoroughly thought-provoking post.

Identifying as queer doesn't reduce anyone's need or use for the contraceptive pill, it is used in a multitude of cases to treat PMDD, PCOS, irregularities, endometriotis and acne. So it's important for women of all financial classes, whether they're having sex or not.
Being queer also doesn't undermine my sex and the empathy and concern for the status of my gender.

Abortion in Australia is only legal for maternal life, rape, health, fetal defects, and/or mental health, and in QLD it is only legal for maternal life and health. Women can't have full choice over their bodies and have to 'earn' the right to abortion, proving their 'need'.

Back to the original topic, I think the sexist views expressed in this thread provide a real understanding of why rape occurs, because as you have all said, women are viewed as "inferior" within society.

Rape is caused by rape culture and misogyny, NOT the clothes women wear.

So what you're saying is: "Women are viewed as inferior. Therefore, they will be raped." So you're eliminating every single possible variable including the clothes they wear, and the way they act, and the other stuff that's been pointed out here - and single-handedly put it all on 'misogyny' and the associated 'rape culture'.

I don't think it works like that.

 

[SnowFox]

Identifying as queer doesn't reduce anyone's need or use for the contraceptive pill, it is used in a multitude of cases to treat PMDD, PCOS, irregularities, endometriotis and acne. So it's important for women of all financial classes, whether they're having sex or not.
Being queer also doesn't undermine my sex and the empathy and concern for the status of my gender.

Abortion in Australia is only legal for maternal life, rape, health, fetal defects, and/or mental health, and in QLD it is only legal for maternal life and health. Women can't have full choice over their bodies and have to 'earn' the right to abortion, proving their 'need'.

Back to the original topic, I think the sexist views expressed in this thread provide a real understanding of why rape occurs, because as you have all said, women are viewed as "inferior" within society.

Rape is caused by rape culture and misogyny, NOT the clothes women wear.

I dont think anyone has inferred women as inferior, and if they have its because you are acting dumb a twat and they are trolling you.

There is barely a gender pay gap, i work in a meat processing plant, majority of employees are females, majority of leading hands/ supervisors/ higher positions are female. Each position is paid their set wage, i earn $21p/h, the women who do the exact same job earns $21p/h.

Rape is not caused by a rape culture and misogyny. Most are opportunistic cauded by sexual deprivation (tah Riprooter) and down right fucked in the mind, and if they are premeditated, more often then not the male (or female) is under some false belief its their will to do so. Not all people see the world like this.

Rape culture, jesus fuck this isnt the middle east.

 

[Fake French]

So what you're saying is: "Women are viewed as inferior. Therefore, they will be raped." So you're eliminating every single possible variable including the clothes they wear, and the way they act, and the other stuff that's been pointed out here - and single-handedly put it all on 'misogyny' and the associated 'rape culture'.

I don't think it works like that.

No women's dress or behaviour gives someone the right to assault them, and the responsibility of sexual assault lies in the offender. Nothing women do can encourage and provoke rape, there are no variables.

 

[thank_dentists]

If Brownmiller is right that rape is
about power, not sex, then why are women raped and not simply
beaten? If Warshaw is right that women are socialized and conditioned
to expect and accept male aggression, why do women feel violated
when they are raped?

google scholaring

 

[Phoenix Fury]

No women's dress or behaviour gives someone the right to assault them, and the responsibility of sexual assault lies in the offender. Nothing women do can encourage and provoke rape, there are no variables.

Agree with first bit, no one has the right to assult anyone else and the responsibility does lie with the one who commits the act, but second bit is simply closed minded nonsense. You can't just say "nope nothing will affect it I know cos I say so1!!1" without even considering the possibility that it may.

 

[SnowFox]

No women's dress or behaviour gives someone the right to assault them, and the responsibility of sexual assault lies in the offender. Nothing women do can encourage and provoke rape, there are no variables.

You're an idiot.

Reread what Shadow wrote.

 

[thank_dentists]

re: date rape drugs. Which would make a rapist feel more powerful: raping someone who's conscious or unconscious?

 

[cosmo kramer]

i bet you 500 bucks that fake french wasnt really raped

 

[Shadowdude]

No women's dress or behaviour gives someone the right to assault them, and the responsibility of sexual assault lies in the offender. Nothing women do can encourage and provoke rape, there are no variables.

I get that. It's like if I leave the door open on my house, despite that - I give no one the right to break in and steal stuff and the responsibility solely goes to the offender. Of course.

But if I do leave the door open on my house, then I can be seen to encourage someone breaking in. If I walk around at midnight in a dark alleyway flashing $100 bills and acting all tough, then I can be seen to encourage someone to rob me. Is there a similar scenario for rape? That is, suppose a girl walks around acting promiscuous, flirting and teasing every guy she sees and with clothes so revealing... you get the picture - does she encourage rape?

Gray area. And that's what we're trying to figure out.

My view is that if rape is about sex - then it follows logically, to my view, yes. If rape is not about sex, then no.

google scholaring

Oooh, thought provoking. Nice.

 

[Lolsmith]

Identifying as queer doesn't reduce anyone's need or use for the contraceptive pill, it is used in a multitude of cases to treat PMDD, PCOS, irregularities, endometriotis and acne. So it's important for women of all financial classes, whether they're having sex or not.
Being queer also doesn't undermine my sex and the empathy and concern for the status of my gender.

Abortion in Australia is only legal for maternal life, rape, health, fetal defects, and/or mental health, and in QLD it is only legal for maternal life and health. Women can't have full choice over their bodies and have to 'earn' the right to abortion, proving their 'need'.

Back to the original topic, I think the sexist views expressed in this thread provide a real understanding of why rape occurs, because as you have all said, women are viewed as "inferior" within society.

Rape is caused by rape culture and misogyny, NOT the clothes women wear.

So you like to throw around this moral superiority nonsense without addressing the majority of my points

cool

feel free to return and actually debate the shit you're throwing out at some later date because you aren't at high school and even with your horrible past, people aren't just going to accept what you say because you say it