Can I get 99+ ATAR? (3 Viewers)

[SanjoyM]

Using an ATAR calculator, to get 99.95 you need

English Advanced - 96

English Extension 1 - 97

English Extension 2 - 98

Ancient History - 98

Biology - 96

Chemistry - 96

Awesome!!!

Well, I'm not that great at chem, but I'm hoping that English Advanced will strengthen my scaling -
English Advanced - 98
Extension English 1 - 49/50
Extension English 2 - 50/50 (its possible!! lol)
Ancient history - 99 (I love history! lol)
Biology - 96-98 (possible)
Chem - 90 (very hard to get band 6 - hoping for the best)

 

[Dylanamali]

Awesome!!!

Well, I'm not that great at chem, but I'm hoping that English Advanced will strengthen my scaling -
English Advanced - 98
Extension English 1 - 49/50
Extension English 2 - 50/50 (its possible!! lol)
Ancient history - 99 (I love history! lol)
Biology - 96-98 (possible)
Chem - 90 (very hard to get band 6 - hoping for the best)

gg..
thats a state rank in: adv eng, bio, ancient, ee2 lol.. animal
90 in chem is preety easy.. it aligns very well so a raw mark of 72->90

 

[SanjoyM]

gg..
thats a state rank in: adv eng, bio, ancient, ee2 lol.. animal
90 in chem is preety easy.. it aligns very well so a raw mark of 72->90

LOL! Am I too MOTIVATED and AMBITIOUS? haha

 

[SanjoyM]

I forgot music on my list :O lol
Music - 90 lol xD

 

[Dylanamali]

nah it's good your aiming high, but those marks are exceptional.. I don't know you, but I'd say they may be unrealistic.
95 in all subs is achievable, difference between a 95 and a 97/98 (state rank) is huge..

 

[Cl324]

LOL! Am I too MOTIVATED and AMBITIOUS? haha

You're not too motivated, maybe a tad more ambitious than you should be.
But props to you. If you believe you can get those marks then thats great!
What do you wana do in uni or in the future?

 

[SanjoyM]

True! I'm just aiming as high as I can, so when I don't achieve state ranking or get 95, I know that I tried my best!
I just want to go ALL THE WAY!!
Only 7-8 months of my life, some hard work and then it will payoff in the end
I have made like 6 drafts of Belonging and Extension essays so far! It's crazy..

 

[SanjoyM]

You're not too motivated, maybe a tad more ambitious than you should be.
But props to you. If you believe you can get those marks then thats great!
What do you wana do in uni or in the future?

Well, Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery and then after post grad - research on cancer and possible cures for cancer, and maybe a medical author + specialist in Oncology as most people in my Mother's family who were very close to me passed away with cancer So, I'm doing it for them That's my motivation! Biggest motivation has to be my grandma... she also passed away with cancer.

Yeah, I'm a bit more ambitious, but I'm not obsesses about it.

 

[Lovestospooge]

it's not scaled on your schools rank! your assessment mark is scaled in relation to how well you do in the HSC exams. it all has to do with the strength of the performance of the candititure of each year and each subject. It is not about how well you do in relation to the rest of your year because your year could be particularly bad or good. There is no way of determining how well you will do by your position in the school unless your school acheives consistent results in the ATAR or UAI, then you can get a rough estimate by comparing your ranking to the ranking of past HSC students and their results.
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[acemusic415]

Don't set your aims too high. It will only lead to disappointment. Set marks that you think are realistic and simultaneously, achievable for your standards.

 

[SanjoyM]

Okay! So people, who are adivsing me to not set my goals 'too high', I adivse you to check my post on the page. Thank you

 

[beryaziz]

Your final mark is made up of your HSC Exam Mark for 50% of it, and your AGGREGATE assessment mark for the other 50%.

The aggregate mark is:

If you come 2nd in biology, and the highest mark out of everyone at your school is 98, then 93 is the next mark - you came 2nd, so you get the 2nd highest mark overall and take it as your assessment mark. So you'd get 93.
So if you got 99 in the final exam, and ranked 2nd at your school, you get an average of your own mark and the scaled aggregate mark.

If you came last and the lowest mark in the exam was 49% out of all the people at your school, but you got a tutor and aced the HSC exam, and got 98%, then you would average 98 & 49 and that would be your final mark.

THATS why higher ranked schools are scaled better. Because if you come 40th at James Ruse, your aggregate mark would probably still be 90+, whereas 40th at another school might mean your aggregate mark is in the 60's.

 

[D94]

Your final mark is made up of your HSC Exam Mark for 50% of it, and your AGGREGATE assessment mark for the other 50%.

The aggregate mark is:

If you come 2nd in biology, and the highest mark out of everyone at your school is 98, then 93 is the next mark - you came 2nd, so you get the 2nd highest mark overall and take it as your assessment mark. So you'd get 93.
So if you got 99 in the final exam, and ranked 2nd at your school, you get an average of your own mark and the scaled aggregate mark.

If you came last and the lowest mark in the exam was 49% out of all the people at your school, but you got a tutor and aced the HSC exam, and got 98%, then you would average 98 & 49 and that would be your final mark.

THATS why higher ranked schools are scaled better. Because if you come 40th at James Ruse, your aggregate mark would probably still be 90+, whereas 40th at another school might mean your aggregate mark is in the 60's.

NO, that's incorrect. If the second highest mark is 93, and you come second, you do not get 93. BOS lines up your internal raw marks and HSC exam marks, and pins the top mark with the first ranked person, and pins the lowest mark with the lowest ranked person. Then, they find the mean and align that with the mean in the HSC. Then, by using standard deviation, they determine your assessment mark based on how much you deviate from the mean in your raw marks.

This means, you may more than 93 or less. It depends on the whole cohort and if they are close or apart, high up towards 100 or low down towards 0.

Your point about the last ranked person is correct. BUT, you are mistaken between aligning and scaling. BOS uses aligning, UAC uses scaling.

Higher ranked schools have no impact on the cohort. Just because James Ruse came first in 2011, it doesn't mean the 2012 cohort will do as well. It doesn't give them an advantage at all. What it would infer, is the level of quality of competitiveness, teachers, the cohort itself, the mindset and so on. However, just because you came 40th in a lower ranked school, that does not mean you will get a mark of 60. That cohort can be as good as Ruse, so that's why everything starts afresh each year. It's just the mindset that a lower ranked school (for the previous year) will get a low mark, which is stupid and self-defeating.

 

[Cl324]

NO, that's incorrect. If the second highest mark is 93, and you come second, you do not get 93. BOS lines up your internal raw marks and HSC exam marks, and pins the top mark with the first ranked person, and pins the lowest mark with the lowest ranked person. Then, they find the mean and align that with the mean in the HSC. Then, by using standard deviation, they determine your assessment mark based on how much you deviate from the mean in your raw marks.

This means, you may more than 93 or less. It depends on the whole cohort and if they are close or apart, high up towards 100 or low down towards 0.

Your point about the last ranked person is correct. BUT, you are mistaken between aligning and scaling. BOS uses aligning, UAC uses scaling.

I reckon by logic, they look at the mean and SD first.

 

[mnmaa]

Im going to be brutally honest here. 99-99.3 very maximum. I don't think you can get 99.95 with those subjects and marks. To get 99.95 your going to need multiple state rankings and extremely high marks as previously mentioned and you appear to be underestimating the difficulty of getting 99.95. Just take a look around, there are very few people on this forum who have scored 99.95.The only person I know on this forum who has topped maths extension 2, the most difficult course in the HSC.

 

[mnmaa]

just look at the required percentile for each of your subjects if your going to get 99.95
English Advanced 99.5
2 English Extension 1 99.2
3 English Extension 2 94.4
4 Biology 99.7
5 Chemistry 99.7
6 Ancient History 99.00
7 Music 2 94.4

These are percentiles for individual subjects, so in chemistry for example you must be in the top 0.3% of chemistry students which is insane.

 

[SanjoyM]

Im going to be brutally honest here. 99-99.3 very maximum. I don't think you can get 99.95 with those subjects and marks. To get 99.95 your going to need multiple state rankings and extremely high marks as previously mentioned and you appear to be underestimating the difficulty of getting 99.95. Just take a look around, there are very few people on this forum who have scored 99.95.The only person I know on this forum who has topped maths extension 2, the most difficult course in the HSC.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm hoping for a 99.95, but I'll be happy with anything above 98 I just want to achieve a state ranking (hopefully) for English Advanced and Extension - but if I do not do so and miss out by 1 or 2 marks, I'll be happy that I was consistent and tried my hardest!

I'm not really obsessed with attaining a 99.95 ATAR, but aiming high so if I do not achieve it, as previously reiterated, I will know that I tried my hardest! 98-99.3 is fine

 

[alstah]

I got over 99 with:

- Ancient History (98/100)
- Studies of Religion I (49/50)
- Legal Studies
-English Extension I
-Mathematics Extension I

It's not the subjects you do that matter...it's how well you do in them that counts! Forget scaling, just do your best.

 

[eshay_lad]

well you've probably only done 1 or 2 assessments, so its really early days. if those were your end of year marks, 98 + definitely.. just keep your head down and keep the marks up

 

[nml10]

Sanjoy. I am a graduate from Parramatta High School, Class of 2011.

School rank does matter to some extent. However, if you maintain your current ranks + ace your external exams, I am sure you'll do as well as your aim. Best of luck, make our school proud!