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Why the hell not? Successful people always think they have a shot otherwise they would have never applied. Always go with the undergraduate option if you can. GAMSAT is hell to prepare and sit. Yes you can improve your UMAT. Just practice, get past papers and papers from other colleges. If...

Thanks Kiraken. Medicine is so competitive these days, people I know are already doing masters, extra credits and research just to get ahead in relevant fields. Also given the long length of training and further education required it's a tough road ahead and without passion you will struggle...

Good point raised. I'm more alluding to the fact that patient who says "yeh whatever" even after you tell them they could potentially lose their life without taking the medication. Generally younger patients who "think" they are invincible so don't turn up for appointments. The unfortunate thing...

Thanks! It's for the greater good. I can deal with non-compliant patients but the problem is I feel pretty shitty afterwards because I feel like they are wasting their life away and they could be doing so much better only if they listened. Regardless, you try and try but after a while you...

What if their reasons for non-compliance are idiotic? What then? I have seen more than my fair share of idiotic reasons even after telling the patient they are false beliefs. I'm just putting forward an opinion as food for thought. I agree with kiraken that it would not work in our current day...

I raised the thought of no treatment for non-compliance must like the idea of not giving scarce resources (organs) to certain patients. Also alcohol is not contraindication for liver transplantation, it is the risk the patient will damage the liver with continued drinking. I never once stated I...

Kiraken is mad. Why are you so mad? This was a what if debate. I never once said I would disagree with what the patient wanted if I believed they needed it in a real life scenario. This has become a personal attack instead of a proper debate. Perhaps you shouldn't be a doctor because your...

If you have nothing to add to the debate perhaps you should stop making judgemental comments? Let me guess you stuffed up section 2 in the UMAT?

So a diabetic patient says I don't want to attend renal, ophthalmology, cardiology consults and check my HB1AC. Just give me more insulin. I thought doctors were meant to promote better outcomes. Going by a patient-orientated approach you are essentially giving them a death sentence. This is...

Everyone has a boiling point. To say you won't get frustrated towards any patient in your lifelong career is a delusion. Overwork, stress, other commitments all play a role in any normal human being. You will be pushed, prodded to the point where you will lose your patience with your patients...

Personal bias for selection of patients in GP centers do occur. I never said personal bias for selecting treatment. I never said medicine was about cure, now you're putting words into my mouth. I am the last person to throw naive around? Don't act like every single person who went to medical...

Personal bias, whether you like it or not will always influence what patients you get and what sort of outcome is as a result. GPs have told me they only see certain patients because of their personal bias so you are pretty much saying half the GPs should not be doctors. I also question my...

You are probably right on the point of wastage in the system on tests and unnecessary treatments outweighing the cost of non-compliance. On the most part most doctors I see take a pretty darn good history and do a great exam. As for excluding viral origin of illness, you can't unless you want to...

I wanted to bring up that article because although it does not reflect 100% of what we discussed here it has valid points about the issue of money. Like I said earlier I'm not saying we should refuse treatment to patients but I think there should be a system implemented for patients requiring...

Food for thought, "up to 30% of the budget" is spent on things that do not benefit the patients. Patient advocacy is important but this is too much of a waste on resources if it is true, perhaps doctors should make a judgement call on whether to treat or refuse treatment for the greater good of...

We hardly use maths in medicine in medical school. Anyone in high school can probably use the maths we use in medicine unless you want to go into research. That being said I don't know the specific maths you would learn for opthalmology or radiology or radiation oncology. There is probably some...

So please enlighten me on what "medical journals" one should read for the interview. I have never asked my students to read medical journals in my 3 years of training students and they all have done pretty well. Kiraken. Perhaps I have the surgeon mentality where patient outcomes are...

Medicine creates cynicism. The things you witness astounds common sense. I know what the interviewers look for so I make appropriate suggestions to my students to say the right things. As for my beliefs it has changed since I entered medicine. Medicine is not glorious, it is frustrating...

^You haven't treated any patients have you? You have no idea how retarded some patients are. Cultural reasons and not being to understand instructions aside, it's the ignorance that ticks me off about patients. So say for example your mother was diagnosed was cancer and they couldn't operate...

8-9 years minimum after graduation if you're smooth sailing. These type of people know what specialty they want to pursue when they enter med school and do research, publish papers and make contacts in their relevant specialties. Even so, these days these people are missing out because pretty...