withoutaface
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Swan's fucked, and he knows it. The call for Turnbull resigned is a Goebbels-esque smokescreen.
Because that makes sense. Fucking gronks.Email has apparently been found. It's a fake. Sent from inside Treasury to Grech's private email. AFP executed a search warrant on Grech's house.
Opposition still calling for Swan's resignation.
The motion passed.Parliament currently debating a motion censuring Turnbull.
The motion failed. Rudd is demanding Turnbull resign.Turnbull moving a censure motion against the treasurer.
Maybe it will trigger a double dissolution election, something they definitely don't want?The Opposition will support the second attempt at the alcopops tax, which as far as I can tell will be pretty much identical to the first. Why'd they block it in the first place if they're just going to support it?
He wouldn't be calling it for the alcopops law, he'd be calling it because he is the more popular leader right now and if he were to win an election now, he'd be able to see the budget measures he has put in place actually happen. I can see plenty of reasons he would call an election for later this year.I don't think Rudd would be foolish enough to call a double dissolution over something as minor as an alchopops tax.
Carbon trading emissions scheme is another matter (although still unlikely in my view)
Well its not as though Turnbull is certain to call a press conference if he loses saying he had done a terrible thing and now feels he must resign but a fake email will not poll well and whilst he polls abysmally opposition MP's will begin to wonder if there is any point in him contesting the next election seeing he's got buckleys of winning it. Its just common sense that if the current bloke is gonna lose might as well have a punt on a different one.If Swan ends up going, does anyone believe this translate positively for Turnbull individually?
There's talk that this issue could potentially "make or break" Turnbull. I can't see it doing either? :/
Hear it! Hear it!Leader of the House: If he was here I'd say to the Member for Higgins, It's not too late! It's not too late Mr Speaker.
What would you have Turnbull do? He's crossed the line, there is no coming back from here his only hope (presuming the governments innocent) is that someone falls for his bluff. On the question of whether Turnbull can salvage anything then no this is not the be all and end all. But on the matter of whether his colleagues could in their wildest imagination think he will deliver them government after this he has reached the point of the no return.The motion passed.
The motion failed. Rudd is demanding Turnbull resign.
It certainly seems like Rudd is just milking it for all it's worth, but the Opposition is being pretty stupid. Basically digging a bigger hole.
No wonder people think he'd be a bad leader.Mr Turnbull said he would only apologise to the Prime Minister over the incident if Mr Rudd apologised to him.
"I'll apologise ... for saying he misled the Parliament when he apologises to me for saying I had a hand in fabricating this email," he said on Channel 7.
"We can have mutual apologies. I'd be delighted to do that."
You think the government will let Turnbull off the hook so easy? This is going to hurt him and many of his colleagues will think him a damn fool for the way he charged in without covering his retreat.Kevin Rudd has no case to answer in utegate affair - Malcolm Turnbull | National News | News.com.au
I think that sufficiently defuses the entire episode. Effective salvage imo.
I imagine Swan will still face some questioning however. Can't see anybody resigning though.
Barring any other major developments, this will fizzle out.