BA psychology honours, arts, science FTW!!?? (1 Viewer)

[taki999]

Hey guys..i decided that i wanted to do psychology at uni but decided that BA psyc Honours of 94.5 or 96 was too high for me. I asked my school counselor what was the difference and all she said was arts and science was the same but that you have to do well do proceed to do psycology honours later.
The think is i'm confused about the differences of BA science psyco and BA Arts psyco and the transfering thing after it. Can someone please explain the differences and processes after finishing BA arts or science.

Thanks guys!

 

[Serius]

BA and BS Psych are exactly the same, well there is a slight difference, science and psych credit points work towards your major in BS Psych and arts and psych credit points work towards your major with BA Psych... but basically the same thing, as the credit point requirement is tiny.

Both courses are also highly similiar to a B Psych, except that B Psych people have a set prescribed amount of psych subjects, which BS and BA could choose to follow if they wanted.

The main difference comes at the end of 3rd year, BS and BA psych people need to get an offer to do honours as their 4th year to continue
B Psych people continue wether they get offered honours or not.
the reason why doing a 4th year is so important is that to be recognised as a Psychologist you need to have 4 years of study under your belt... the 4th year is not assured for B arts psych and B Science psych people.

i hope that clears up any of your questions.

 

[Densuki]

serius is on the money for most of the part, but to add, working as a psychologist requires you do have a masters under ur belt aswell, and at UNSW at least, clinical psychology = HD in honour year!

 

[Captain Obvious 1]

serius is on the money for most of the part, but to add, working as a psychologist requires you do have a masters under ur belt aswell, and at UNSW at least, clinical psychology = HD in honour year!

Ouch!

 

[Jessica_00]

I also had the same dilemma as the person asking this, but I figured out one thing that you guys havent answered, That is the B Psychology is more indepth into Psychology and thus subconsciously is more valued to the employer/clinic/hospital/etc than a BA or BS.. Numerous Uni websites have said that the BA and BS majoring ins Psych are for those who do not get the marks for B Psych or that the actually did B Psych and failed and had to drop DOWN to BA and BS..
So basically a BPsych looks more prestigious.

Just do that maths... usually a BS or BA is around 65- 85 UAI, where the average UAI for a BPsych is from 87 to 96.8 so... see where I'm getting at?


I had the choice of taking also a LAw Degree under my belt if I choose BA pSych/ B Law at Macquarie this year, but I figured that it was going to be usless if I only wanted to do it for to be a Psychologist because that BA-Psych won't do me very well.


The APPS says that many Psychology students who want to find a job as a Psychologist need to have a higher degree than a Bachelor, maybe a masters, PhD or Honours. So you should aim for Honours if all fails

 

[AsyLum]

Err wtf?

You can mimic the B Psych (Hons) course in a BA-Psych/BSci-Psych from memory, and then transfer/gain entry into the 4th Year Honours, thus ending with a BA-Psych(Hons)/BSci-Psych(Hons).

Another thing, UAI have no correlation on how 'hard' a degree is. It is a number attributed to supply and demand, some of the most challenging courses are actually lower than 80 UAI because of their 'specialist' or 'unpopular' nature.

We already told you all this, but just in case you missed it/or ignored it, link, link, link

Prestige means shit all if you can't get the GPA requirements for 4th year Honours anyway, and are forced to graduate with a BA/BSci-Psych.

 

[kami]

I also had the same dilemma as the person asking this, but I figured out one thing that you guys havent answered, That is the B Psychology is more indepth into Psychology and thus subconsciously is more valued to the employer/clinic/hospital/etc than a BA or BS..

The BPsych(Hons) is not more indepth as a student studying the Honours year in psychology will undertake the same range of subjects as someone who gained access to Honours from a different program (e.g BA or BSci).

Numerous Uni websites have said that the BA and BS majoring ins Psych are for those who do not get the marks for B Psych or that the actually did B Psych and failed and had to drop DOWN to BA and BS..

The reason they are required to drop down to BA or BSci is because they no longer retain the marks to do the Honours year. Similarly, someone in BA or BSci who maintains a certain average will gain access to the Honours year. Also, as mentioned above this Honours year is the same regardless of the program from which you access it.

The APPS says that many Psychology students who want to find a job as a Psychologist need to have a higher degree than a Bachelor, maybe a masters, PhD or Honours. So you should aim for Honours if all fails

The APAC site (which is the accreditation authority for psychology courses) stipulates Honours (whether it be from BPsych, BA, BSci). You may substitute a postgraduate Diploma in Psychology should you not have access to Honours. Following this you must have a further two years experience, from either a proffessional doctorate, masters or supervised experience in a clinic otherwise you cannot become registered as a psychologist. So having Honours will not gain you employment.

I hope this clears up some of the misunderstandings you've expressed - though I can understand your confusion given all the different degree names and whatnot.

 

[Jessica_00]

Err wtf?

You can mimic the B Psych (Hons) course in a BA-Psych/BSci-Psych from memory, and then transfer/gain entry into the 4th Year Honours, thus ending with a BA-Psych(Hons)/BSci-Psych(Hons).

Another thing, UAI have no correlation on how 'hard' a degree is. It is a number attributed to supply and demand, some of the most challenging courses are actually lower than 80 UAI because of their 'specialist' or 'unpopular' nature.

We already told you all this, but just in case you missed it/or ignored it, link, link, link

Prestige means shit all if you can't get the GPA requirements for 4th year Honours anyway, and are forced to graduate with a BA/BSci-Psych.

Ok Sorry I didnt get around many of those links you gave me, but I just read every word of it now. Ok so basically BA BS majoring in Psych needs a GPA of 3.25 while a BPsych straight would only need a GPA of 3 to get into Honours. Is that correct. the person who said it wasnt very sure.

Also I was tossing up whether to go to UNSW or MAQ for Psych...or even UNSYD... I hear USYD Psych course is very old school and focused too much of Freud.. while UNSW has a thing that gets you a job straight after you graduate where MAQ doesnt?
But on the otehr hand, MAQ has ilectures and UNSW doesnt(?)

I do like MAQ campus a lot, the nature and greens really draws me in. but then again UNSW has the big rep.



Ok let me ask you though, if you wanted to do Psych and had a 99 UAI, which degree would you do in a heartbeat..between B Psych Hon or BA Pysch, BS Psych, B Com Psych ?

 

[AsyLum]

http://www.psy.mq.edu.au/courses/c_4year.htm

Its 3.25 for 3rd year for both courses.

If you're sure that you want to do Psych, then get into B Psych(Hons) but like we've said, it doesn't really matter, either way you'll be doing exactly the same thing.