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Of course ln2 is a real number.

It's loge2

If x=loge2, then it is the same as saying that ex=2

What are you trying to say?
 

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the OP was confused (asking why ln2 isn't differentiated)
jetblack was just pointing out that ln2 is a number/constant, not a function, so it is treated the same as any other constant when differentiating
 

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jm01 said:
log2x=logex/loge2 [Log rules of changing base]

By quotient rule, d/dx=(vu'-uv')/v2

Therefore, d/dx=[(loge2).(1/x)-logex.0]/(loge2)2

=1/xloge2
=1/xln2

Hope that helps

CHAMPION... thanks heaps buddy.... i was looking at the question in the wrong way...

p.s: thanks also to 'lyounamu'
 

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jezz66 said:
On the topic of differentiation, I have a question that I’m stuck with:

Differentiate: y = sin<SUP>3</SUP>x / cos<SUP>4</SUP>x

Thanx.
I haven't done this topic yet but I reckon you might have to simplify first

i.e. y = tan3x/cosx
 

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you can use quotient or product rule if you've learnt it?

y' = (cos 4 x)(3 sin 2 x cos x) - (sin 3 x)(-)(4 cos 3x sin x) OVER cos 8 x

i hope i havent forgotten my maths stuff already haha
 

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You use the quotient rule.
We know, d/dx(sin^3(x))=3cos(x)sin^2(x)
and
d/dx(cos^4(x))=-4sin(x)cos^3(x)
Hence, d/dx(sin^3(x)/cos^4(x))
= (vu'-uv')(v^20
=(3cos^5(x)sin^2(x)+4sin^4(x)cos^3(x))/(cos^8(x))
=(3cos^2(x)sin^2(x) + 4sin^4(x))/cos^5(x)
 

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jezz66 said:
On the topic of differentiation, I have a question that I’m stuck with:

Differentiate: y = sin<SUP>3</SUP>x / cos<SUP>4</SUP>x

Thanx.
Product rule might be easier lol:
y = sin3x / cos4x
= tan3x.sec x
dy/dx = 3tan2x.sec2x.sec x + tan3x.sec x.tan x
= 3tan2x.sec3x + tan4x.sec x
 

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The only thing with that is that 2 unit isn't required to differentiate secx. I think that this would definitely be a quotient rule question.
 

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jetblack2007 said:
The only thing with that is that 2 unit isn't required to differentiate secx. I think that this would definitely be a quotient rule question.
I'm pretty sure the derivative of sec x is within the scope of the 2 unit course. The only part of the Trigonometric Functions topic that is strictly Extension 1 according to the syllabus is the integral of cos²x and sin²x because it requires double angles, which are not in the 2 unit syllabus.
 

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jezz66 said:
Thanx the answers I had must of been wrong cause i had the same thing bu the answers said

3sin<SUP>2</SUP>x + sin<SUP>4</SUP>x /cos<SUP>5</SUP>x
I think it meant (3sin<SUP>2</SUP>x + sin<SUP>4</SUP>x) /cos<SUP>5</SUP>x
 

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The answers are actually equivalent. They're all correct.

Note that from jetblack2007's answer:
(3sin2x.cos2x + 4sin4x) / cos5x
= (3sin2x.(1 - sin2x) + 4sin4x) / cos5x
= (3sin2x - 3sin4x + 4sin4x) / cos5x
= (3sin2x + sin4x) / cos5x
which is the other form of the answer
= 3sin2x / cos2x.cos3x + sin4x / cos4x.cos x
= 3tan2x / cos3x + tan4x / cos x
= 3tan2x.sec3x + tan4x.sec x
which is the another form of the answer that I had...
 
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