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withoutaface said:
If you have lots of commitments during the week then I might suggest that 4u is not for you.
Why do u say that?
Its all about balance not focussing on 4u for the whole time
Im doin really well in maths so im happy and i think i will do really well in 4u if i put the effort in
What do u just sit at home being a hermit and study for the whole year? U can always balance, its not all about STUDY!
 
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I dont have tutor and I came second
lets keep the pro-tutor and anti-tutor voice balanced =p
oh and the person ranked #1 doesnt have tutor.. but hes born as a smart guy, sometimes even helps our teacher.

its ok to have commitments during the week, but at least in each week u need to do.. maybe 4 hrs of maths for the ext2 outside school, during weekends. more if u wanna get good marks.
and on holidays u should do some more.
might even need to be a hermit for a couple of days =p
 
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illin said:
Why do u say that?
Its all about balance not focussing on 4u for the whole time
Im doin really well in maths so im happy and i think i will do really well in 4u if i put the effort in
What do u just sit at home being a hermit and study for the whole year? U can always balance, its not all about STUDY!
Because you need to set aside, on average, at least 1.5 hours a night for maths if you wish to acheive a good mark, and this is not even considering the time you need to spend on other subjects. The HSC is a full time commitment, and if you wish to suceed you must treat it as such. That's my 2c anyhow.
 

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withoutaface said:
Because you need to set aside, on average, at least 1.5 hours a night for maths if you wish to acheive a good mark, and this is not even considering the time you need to spend on other subjects. The HSC is a full time commitment, and if you wish to suceed you must treat it as such. That's my 2c anyhow.
I dont think thats correct at all - some people will get a good mark in 4u with little to no effort, some work their arses off and get low marks

I myself do a lot of stuff outside of study such as sport and recently completed the gold duke of edinburghs award but still have results I am happy with(except in english haha)
 
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withoutaface's definitio of good is different to urs
he probably aims for 95% raw mark :p
 

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mojako is right, definition of good is diff from person to person..
 

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grimreaper said:
I dont think thats correct at all - some people will get a good mark in 4u with little to no effort, some work their arses off and get low marks

I myself do a lot of stuff outside of study such as sport and recently completed the gold duke of edinburghs award but still have results I am happy with(except in english haha)
I 'spose I'm just one of those people that would have crashed and burnt if I hadn't studied this year.
 

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mojako said:
withoutaface's definitio of good is different to urs
he probably aims for 95% raw mark :p
try something more along the lines of 80-85%:p
 

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These is beginning to get into a good discussion
ie. withoutface vs Others (in relation to being a hermit against not being a hermit)
I do agree that ext2 must take up a bit of time, and a lot of effort/commitment however u dont need to study ALL the time
THanks for all the advice, i think i'll c how the next term goes and then decide if it is worth getting a tutor! thanks!
Cheers!
 

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I'm with Justin. A tutor explains things. You don't need explanations if you can work it out yourself, and you can, it just takes some effort/time and interest. I would say it also sticks better if yo work it out yourself.

You see, if you get a tutor, chances are you've already decided to try harder, so it becomes hard to differentiate between the help the tutor is giving you, and the benefits you receive from knuckling down.
 

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illin said:
These is beginning to get into a good discussion
ie. withoutface vs Others (in relation to being a hermit against not being a hermit)
I do agree that ext2 must take up a bit of time, and a lot of effort/commitment however u dont need to study ALL the time
THanks for all the advice, i think i'll c how the next term goes and then decide if it is worth getting a tutor! thanks!
Cheers!
The hermit thing is if you really want to hyperinflate your marks.

For example if you are an average 4u student wishing to become an outstanding 4u student.
 

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Slide Rule said:
I'm with Justin. A tutor explains things. You don't need explanations if you can work it out yourself, and you can, it just takes some effort/time and interest. I would say it also sticks better if yo work it out yourself.

You see, if you get a tutor, chances are you've already decided to try harder, so it becomes hard to differentiate between the help the tutor is giving you, and the benefits you receive from knuckling down.
but you can also look at it another way.
some ppl have limited time (have limited time for study)
by getting the tutor they might be able to reach the same level of maths skills faster
because you dont have to sit around trying to figure out what the worked solution (to a past paper question for example) is doing (some solutions dont give full explanation which can be understood by anyone doing ext2 no matter how knowledgable he is)
but it costs money
so it's whether the money is worth what you're getting
I dont think tutor will waste time becoz you r studying when you're with a tutor, so say you have tutoring for 1 hour.. if you have no tutor you'll study for that 1 hour anyway
 
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illin said:
I know heaps of ppl who have tutors because they want to study study study and get a good UAI no matter what
that is just plain stupid
I m not struggling in 3u this year, I m doin quite well
top ten out of about 150
there will be about 15 ppl doin 4u next year and ill prob be around 5th in the class
Should i get a tutor
I dont really want to that the thing
Do u guys who do 4u have tutors
are u doin well?
Cheers!
could you send me some details of 4u maths tutors in sydndy region
 

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Check out the Buy/Sell & Tutors forum. Also, check the link in my sig :D
 

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you can check out my link too :)
but if you want a professional teacher, i can give u the number of a heaps good tutor (but he charges 60 an hour)
 

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Bumping an extremely old thread :eek:.

Just wondering, how many hours of 4U tutoring does one usually do per week? And if I decide to join a coaching centre, for example, is it recommended to join the 3U class as well to not fall behind or in the gap?

I went into a coaching centre recently and asked some questions, and apparently they expect me to do 3 hours of 3U maths tutoring as well as the 3 hours of 4U tutoring which I'm interested in. 6 hours per week seems like quite a lot, and personally I don't think I'd be able to cope with this as well as the workload from school. Is this amount of time for tutoring normal? :/
 

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