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The substitution (u^2-1)^2 can be modified slightly to make the integral much more easier. Its close though.
Actually the integral became just 4∫(u^4 - u^2) du - about as simple as it gets. The messy part was the ensuing substitution. I've checked my answer by differentiation and it works.
 

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Actually the integral became just 4∫(u^4 - u^2) du - about as simple as it gets. The messy part was the ensuing substitution. I've checked my answer by differentiation and it works.
Yep, I was thinking of (u-1)^2 which is slightly longer.

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Personally, I would have made the substitution x=u^2.

As a result, you get the integral of u*sqrt(1+u), which is straight-forward to evaluate, and the substitution back to x is quick.
 

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Just learnt Integration by parts and Latex so probably wrong.
Well yeah if its right its right, nice work.

Alternatively the substitution u=1+x^3 and the split of the first x^5 into x^3 and x^2 yields a faster method.
 

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Well yeah if its right its right, nice work.

Alternatively the substitution u=1+x^3 and the split of the first x^5 into x^3 and x^2 yields a faster method.


Yeah I did split it. u= x^2. It is pretty obvious with integration by parts though as you need to get rid of the coefficient as efficiently as possible.

I usually have problems more with partial fractions and splitting the numerator though.

I can't think of a really hard question atm.
 

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I could not think of something creative at this point of time.
 

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I could not think of something creative at this point of time.
What you can do is consider areas. First split the integral into:



Now if we consider the integrals separately and consider the areas bound by the curves:





Similarly for inverse tan:





Adding the two integrals together gives:

 
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What you can do is consider areas. First split the integral into:



Now if we consider the integrals separately and consider the areas bound by the curves:





Similarly for inverse tan:





Adding the two integrals together gives:



Edit: Never Mind you were right. Nice Work.
 
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What you can do is consider areas. First split the integral into:



Now if we consider the integrals separately and consider the areas bound by the curves:





Similarly for inverse tan:





Adding the two integrals together gives:


Nice work. That is right and I got the same answer doing it the long way.
 

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I assure you the numbers are not arbitrary.
 

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I assure you the numbers are not arbitrary.





Used partial fractions but got freakishly large numbers (like 500000).
I am guessing you don't use partial fractions?
 
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Used partial fractions but got freakishly large numbers (like 500000).
I am guessing you don't use partial fractions?
Yeah I didn't use partial fractions, I recommend a substitution.
 

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doing partial fractions on that sounds worse than death LOL
 

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hmmm for Sy's question i experimented with x=1/3sectheta but to no avail :( was getting very close until something stuffed up with the limits :/ i got sec (pi/2)
 
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I think maybe tanx or cotx are best as they represent a way of eliminating infinity.
 
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