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Non-inductive way of proving it (this is more of an extension 2 proof, but it should still be accepted since it says 'otherwise'):













 
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I know this might be a stupid thing to say but for some reason when I do circle geometry questions, its easier for me to understand it when I load it up on a computer screen then reading it off a textbook. Not sure why that is.
 

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This is from the Sami El Hosri Paper 7 trials




Would it be ok to say ' angles at the circumference are equal when subtended by the same chord AC' (insteading of saying the word arc'? (to express angle AEC and angle ABC)

Sometimes I see some solution say 'chord' or 'arc'.
 
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could someone please explain this to me, last question from 2010 hsc math 3u.png
 

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could someone please explain this to me, last question from 2010 hsc View attachment 32601
i] if you choose one ball, there are two possibilities, a red ball or a blue ball
if you choose two balls, there are three possibilities, 2 reds, 2 blues, or 1 red 1 blue
if you choose three balls, there are four possibilities, 3 reds, 3 blues, 2 red 1 blue, or two blue 1 red

following the pattern, choosing r balls, there are r+1 possibilities

ii] choosing (n-r) balls from n balls is nC(n-r) because groups of balls doesn't work on arrangements

using the rule, nC(n-r) = nCr we get the desired result

iii] the question asks n red balls and n blue balls (identical) and the labelled white balls

a selection of 'r' identical red and blue balls can be chosen in (r+1) ways, form part i]

therefore there are n-r white balls left, chosen in nCr ways part ii]

therefore selecting both can be made in (r+1) * nCr ways

the number of red or blue balls can go from 0 to n, so the total is sum from 0 to n [ (r+1) nCr ]

split that up into two different sums and use the answer from part b

Would it be ok to say ' angles at the circumference are equal when subtended by the same chord AC' (insteading of saying the word arc'? (to express angle AEC and angle ABC)

Sometimes I see some solution say 'chord' or 'arc'.
Yes, arc or chord, same concept
 
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i] if you choose one ball, there are two possibilities, a red ball or a blue ball
if you choose two balls, there are three possibilities, 2 reds, 2 blues, or 1 red 1 blue
if you choose three balls, there are four possibilities, 3 reds, 3 blues, 2 red 1 blue, or two blue 1 red

following the pattern, choosing r balls, there are r+1 possibilities

ii] choosing (n-r) balls from n balls is nC(n-r) because groups of balls doesn't work on arrangements

using the rule, nC(n-r) = nCr we get the desired result

iii] the question asks n red balls and n blue balls (identical) and the labelled white balls

a selection of 'r' identical red and blue balls can be chosen in (r+1) ways, form part i]

therefore there are n-r white balls left, chosen in nCr ways part ii]

therefore selecting both can be made in (r+1) * nCr ways

the number of red or blue balls can go from 0 to n, so the total is sum from 0 to n [ (r+1) nCr ]

split that up into two different sums and use the answer from part b



THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
 

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i] if you choose one ball, there are two possibilities, a red ball or a blue ball
if you choose two balls, there are three possibilities, 2 reds, 2 blues, or 1 red 1 blue
if you choose three balls, there are four possibilities, 3 reds, 3 blues, 2 red 1 blue, or two blue 1 red

following the pattern, choosing r balls, there are r+1 possibilities

ii] choosing (n-r) balls from n balls is nc(n-r) because groups of balls doesn't work on arrangements

using the rule, nc(n-r) = ncr we get the desired result

iii] the question asks n red balls and n blue balls (identical) and the labelled white balls

a selection of 'r' identical red and blue balls can be chosen in (r+1) ways, form part i]

therefore there are n-r white balls left, chosen in ncr ways part ii]

therefore selecting both can be made in (r+1) * ncr ways

the number of red or blue balls can go from 0 to n, so the total is sum from 0 to n [ (r+1) ncr ]

split that up into two different sums and use the answer from part b



yes, arc or chord, same concept
thank you so much !!!
 

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ohhh, since we're assuming that for n=k, fk[x] has roots -1,-2,....-k, we can put 'a' as anything? For example a = 2 , because it still has roots -1,-2,...-k. Is this what you're saying?
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think polynomials can not have negative indices. So since you know P(x)=0, you should times through by x3 at the end to leave only positive indices.
Thanks!!
 
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