Presidential Election (2 Viewers)

[Lentern]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Opinion polls indicate that the general consensus after the debate was a tie, so Ryan did pretty well (considering Biden was on the front foot throughout the debate).

No they don't.

 

[soloooooo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

No they don't.

Lentern, what are your views on Obama?

 

[Lentern]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Lentern, what are your views on Obama?

I'm disappointed by his failure to act on Climate Change.

 

[SylviaB]

Re: First Presidential Debate

lol

 

[Lentern]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Share the joke Silvy?

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

http://www.smh.com.au/world/murdoch-savages-obamabiden-campaign-20121014-27kow.html

"savages" - is this really that bad for the Obama camp.

 

[kaz1]

Re: First Presidential Debate

http://www.smh.com.au/world/murdoch-savages-obamabiden-campaign-20121014-27kow.html

"savages" - is this really that bad for the Obama camp.

Murdoch- right wing extremist and owner of Faux News savaging the Obama campaign isn't really a shock.

This would probz be his reaction:

 

[Kiraken]

Re: First Presidential Debate

http://www.smh.com.au/world/murdoch-savages-obamabiden-campaign-20121014-27kow.html

"savages" - is this really that bad for the Obama camp.

it's murdoch lol, expected and hardly means anything except for the fact that old rupert wants to attention whore himself

 

[Lentern]

Re: First Presidential Debate

This is pretty unusual, Rupert normally likes to back a winner. Tends to hold off making a call till it's pretty much all sewn up. Helps cultivate the mystique of his influence. Nice piece on the Murdoch myth here. http://www.pipingshrike.com/2011/07/rats-get-caught-in-the-same-mess-london-edition.html

 

[funkshen]

Re: First Presidential Debate

You don't believe in that "electoral momentum" bullshit do you?

no. i'm referring to the emotional investment people have in the presidential debates, and why people talk about 'winning' and 'losing' a debate. i believe the debates are about momentum, not the elections per se. the debates are a rare opportunity for candidates to reach out to a national audience for an extended and intimate period of time. the outcome of the debates does feed into the decisions of some voters (probably tuned-in undecideds), and in this regard momentum is important.

to this effect, i believe the purpose of the second debate was for ryan to maintain the faith in the romney campaign won during the first presidential debate, while biden's purpose was to do anything to counter this momentum and take the sheen off of romney's debate performance. for this reason, i conclude that biden won and ryan lost, even if some surveys might say that respondents believe it was tied (which is indicative of biden stopping the romney momentum).

 

[Lolsmith]

Re: First Presidential Debate

N.B: I did not watch the debate

 

[funkshen]

Re: First Presidential Debate

i watched it, and looked at the transcript. it's not clear whether he's impersonating a republican or not when he said that. if he was, he didn't make it clear; if he wasn't, he's straight up lying, which is the cool thing to do right now.

 

[SylviaB]

Re: First Presidential Debate

I think idiotic beliefs about the cause of the recession are more worrying than lying in a debate tbh

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

can someone explain to me how Barack Obama has a net worth of 11.8 million dollars? presidents annual salary is 400k.

umm found something http://www.therichest.org/celebnetworth/politician/president/barack-obama-net-worth/

apparently its books.

 

[funkshen]

Re: First Presidential Debate

yes, idiotic beliefs about the cause of the recession are very worrying indeed

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

watching the debate while doing my enrolment for semester 1 2013. YOLO.

cant tell whos winning. both are giving pretty vague answers for immigration. but the discussion on tax was interesting.

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

consensus is that obama won that debate. but by not as much as romney won the first.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/16/politics/debate-mainbar/index.html

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

 

[soloooooo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Obama won the battle but has lost the war.

 

[halapenyo]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Obama won the battle but has lost the war.

i dont think so. Romney was gaining momentum and this will stall it. but even with all that momentum he was only level with Obama in the polls before this debate.

and the next debate is on foreign policy, where he wont be able to exploit Obama as much. apart from that Benghazi attack, Romney will just go on and on about it.