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copious said:
The Australian team wouldnt mind Andrew Flintoff. I swear all they need is a genuined all rounder in the mould of Kallis, Flintoff and Cairns and they would be complete, more than they have been for the last few years.
Man they are complete - Andrew symonds - prolly the best all rounder in the 1 day game rite now.

But i gues ur rite - someones depth and experience such as Kallis or cairns would be invaluable to the line up - weither that or give symonds a game....
 

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Our young spinners:

Dan Cullen (sa)
Jason Krezja (nsw)
Nath Hauritz (Qld)
Beau Casson (WA)
Xavier Dougherty (tas)

All orthodox bowlers. Cullen probably the brightest prospect. Cameron White is an exception but more of a batsman.
 

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Smokey_22 said:
Our young spinners:

Dan Cullen (sa)
Jason Krezja (nsw)
Nath Hauritz (Qld)
Beau Casson (WA)
Xavier Dougherty (tas)

All orthodox bowlers. Cullen probably the brightest prospect. Cameron White is an exception but more of a batsman.

None of them look to be very flash to be honest. Apart from Cullen the rest are more fire em in type spinners rather than spinner's who flight the ball and turn it a long way.

You could probably attribute that to one-day cricket, but not a promising crop there in my opinion.
 

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Yeah. The problem is that the depth of Australian players is too deep. You can probaly pick an Australia A test/one day squad and they would easily be in the top 3 teams in the world. Theres still guys like Mike/David Hussey who i think are in their late 20's who are waiting to crack the international side. Then you have Phil Jaques who's in his early/mid 20's and could jump right into the one day side. I'm just worried about australian spinners, we might end up like england.
australia would win evry match if they had flit or kally. dont worry to much about ozzy spinners at the moment there arent too many good ones in the world aprt from, murali, singh (kumble should reitre soon), kaneria. So spinner are short in the world not much to worry about. I feel in the future specialist spinners will be wiped out, it will favour batsman (like clarke and lehmann) that can bowl decent spin it has more batting depth.
 

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Smokey_22 said:
I'd bet my house on Phil Jaques replacing JL when he retires.

Class act is Phil. But maybe the Huss might get a go before him. He's served his apprenticeship pretty well I reckon.
 

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Class act is Phil. But maybe the Huss might get a go before him. He's served his apprenticeship pretty well I reckon.
yeah but i reckon both langer and hayden will retire about the same time so they should both be in line for selection. damn we have depth in australia
 

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otay said:
yeah but i reckon both langer and hayden will retire about the same time so they should both be in line for selection. damn we have depth in australia
as well as marto and gilley, warne, mcgrath, kasper,

all after wc '07. - plenty of spots.
 

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so hows this
jaques
north
ponting
clarke
katich
m. hussey
haddin
lee
gillespie
cullen
tait

hodge, thornley, white, watson, bracken
 

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Constip8edSkunk said:
so hows this
jaques
north
ponting
clarke
katich
m. hussey
haddin
lee
gillespie
cullen
tait

hodge, thornley, white, watson, bracken

looks about right.

A couple of up-and-coming batsmen - Callum Ferguson (SA, 21) and Tom Cooper (NSW, 19)
 

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Master Yoda said:
still nowhere near as good........................................i think the times gonna come for the guard to change wen we lose gilly, warne and mcgrath
i dunno man, those are some quality players right now, and in a few years time when all the older players retire, this lot will have improved. Agree that we will miss gilly, warney and glenn lots, but i wouldn't be surprised if we are still the best team in the world even after they leave. Remember every1 saying how were we goin to replace graig mcdermott and david boon. Now we are like craig who? and only remember boonie coz he's a champion drinker.
 

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Batting wise we'll still be the best attack in the world.
If the Indians can find another opener their top six would rival ours for sure. Gilly is obviously what seperates us so dramatically above the rest though.
 

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just reading about what matty hayden said the edgbaston pitch will be like. He seems to think it will be slow, which would benefit us bcoz mcgrath and usually gillespie dont rely so much on pace, whereas harmison, flintoff but also lee do. However he thinks it may swing a bit which would bring lee back into the action but also jones and maybe hoggard. The positives tho is that harmison may not be as much of an intimidating factor, and its less likely that we'll lose wickets such as langer's, haydne's and katich's in the last test where they were out on the short balls pullin coz the ball hurried onto them. Only time will tell though. I've got Gillespie and 3 of our top order to do really well in this test (dunno which 2). We will win i think, but it will be closer, edgbaston is one of england's favourite grounds and they smoked us there in 97. What do u guys think?
 

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If the Indians can find another opener their top six would rival ours for sure. Gilly is obviously what seperates us so dramatically above the rest though.
But by the time the wc '07 comes around both tendulkar and sehwag(i think) will have retired. And maybe laxman. There arent any young guns yet for them (but you wouldnt know with their billions to choose from.)
 

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But by the time the wc '07 comes around both tendulkar and sehwag(i think) will have retired. And maybe laxman. There arent any young guns yet for them (but you wouldnt know with their billions to choose from.)
Well I was talking about now, but Tendy,Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly will probably all survie till the Cup and retire after maybe.

They've got Kaif and Yurvraj still and they're trying to blood some youngsters now like Rayudu and Rao into their side who look like they have potential. Batsmen have never been a problem for them, it's finding quicks that'll always hamper their chances.
 

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Oh and Kasper takes five against Worcester. Do we still stick with Dizzy? I probably wouldn't change a winning lineup.
 
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