The Individual and Society (1 Viewer)
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Jinglebell
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actually it was my nickname from year 8 of something...don't even really remember why now, but no one came up with a better nickname for me so it stuck
i'm open to suggestions thoughand yeah, wishy washy just about sums up high school debating.
Jinglebell
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'extension 2 english is killing me' would work at this point
braindrainedAsh
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Tuesday for us because we are going to Sydney on Wednesday!!!!!!!! Damn King Lear, when will he ever just leave my life alone!!!!!!
braindrainedAsh
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WTF? Are you paying out non metropolitan people???? You've got a lotta nerve mate. Soph, back me up here!!!!!
braindrainedAsh
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LOL yeah I forgot about that Soph.... it's only because we want to compare non-metro life to city life to show that it is oh so much more exciting
Dude135
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hey ppl,
for those of you that studied browning, dolls house and P&P, which of those texts in your opinion presents the notion of the individual in society more effectively
for those of you that studied browning, dolls house and P&P, which of those texts in your opinion presents the notion of the individual in society more effectively
Jinglebell
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it depends which text you relate to the most...as much as i love browning, i just can't relate to it as much as P&P (mostly due to the previously discussed affinity with lizzy and a strong, uh, 'admiration' for colin firth).
so for me, it's P&P...but then, if you're not a girl then you may not think so. it's highly subjective...and i really shouldn't have tried to answer any sort of question in my current state of brain-dead exhaustion, but i hope you get my drift - there's no definitive 'good' text, it depends on you...and what sort of line you take in your essays, i guess.
).so for me, it's P&P...but then, if you're not a girl then you may not think so. it's highly subjective...and i really shouldn't have tried to answer any sort of question in my current state of brain-dead exhaustion, but i hope you get my drift - there's no definitive 'good' text, it depends on you...and what sort of line you take in your essays, i guess.
i walked out of the extension 1 exam last week thinkin 'omg that was so hard..' i couldnt answer the Q properly -
my friends were talkin about how easy it was - the second Q which i couldnt do. i felt so stupid knowin i found it so hard
then i realised i did the wrong question!!!
fuck
the actual question was dead easy. i chose the wrong one for I&S course. thats bad
so i failed a trial worth 40%. not great
good luck to the rest of u
my friends were talkin about how easy it was - the second Q which i couldnt do. i felt so stupid knowin i found it so hard
then i realised i did the wrong question!!!
fuck
the actual question was dead easy. i chose the wrong one for I&S course. thats bad
so i failed a trial worth 40%. not great
good luck to the rest of u
As much as i love P& P i think dolls house represents I&S most effectively. The C19th was hypocritical in its difference between appearance and reality - the way Ibsen presents the empowerment of a female from her 'most sacred obligations' in her home strongly shows the view of society and how the needs of individuals can override this.
braindrainedAsh
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Oooohhhh Soph very smart.
P&P really only shows moderate change or challenge of social conventions, because Elizabeth does succumb to the institution of marriage in the end. Ibsen is really "in your face", I think his hyperealism challenges social conventions like marriage most strongly.
P&P really only shows moderate change or challenge of social conventions, because Elizabeth does succumb to the institution of marriage in the end. Ibsen is really "in your face", I think his hyperealism challenges social conventions like marriage most strongly.
thanks ash
the other thing i meant to add was when you look at P&P is is an 1813 time period whereas Ibsen is 1879 and Browning is middle of the century. P&P is more tied up with old world values and advocates only a moderate change whereas Ibsen and Browning push for radical change based on their reflections of the values (ways of thinking!) of the decades before them.
Despite that, i still love P&P! 'You must allow me to tell you how ardently i admire and love you' sigh!
the other thing i meant to add was when you look at P&P is is an 1813 time period whereas Ibsen is 1879 and Browning is middle of the century. P&P is more tied up with old world values and advocates only a moderate change whereas Ibsen and Browning push for radical change based on their reflections of the values (ways of thinking!) of the decades before them.
Despite that, i still love P&P! 'You must allow me to tell you how ardently i admire and love you' sigh!
Jinglebell
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hmm, great 'doll's house' points...did i mention we're o behind that we haven't even really started that yet? GAH! with 4 lessons to go, we've barely touched on it! i think i feel an ext 1 holiday study group coming on
and don't you just see and hear colin firth every time you read that line? i'll see your sigh and raise you a swoon