Which Western Taboos do you agree with? (2 Viewers)

[dieburndie]

Definatetly not.

Illegal drugs are wrong on many levels. Drugs can cause serious and permanent damage to their users as well as greater society when people become addicted, leading to higher levels of street violence and theft.

It would be wrong for the government to ever endorse such substances through legalising them in my opinion.

The problem here is that you clearly know nothing about drugs.

Religion can never "lose" to society. There will always be those who maintain their faith against the sinful temptations accepted and even encouraged by our society.

Primitivist idiots will continue to exist, but that doesn't mean they aren't, ultimately, losers

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

1. Prostitution *
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs *
4. Incest *
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting


I have underlined the taboos related to my stance as a vegetarian (eating animals, eating humans, bestiality).

I have placed an asterix next to drugs because I think regulation is warranted depending on the nature of the substance - e.g. I am not too fussed about marijuanna, ecstasy, LSD, whereas I am inclined to think that cocaine, GHB and crystal meth are somewhat more problematic. I also feel that incest and prostitution should be kept free of coercion. In short, I feel that these things (incest, prostitution, drug use) are not wrong in and of themselves but they have a tendency to occur within the context of exploitative relationships.

Interesting that people keep saying this about prostitution and pornography. I guess I should clarify, do you think that the activities are INHERENTLY wrong?

Many people are used as slaves in the mining and textiles industry, yet no one suggests that there is anything wrong with mining or producing clothes as a general practice.

This is not a debate about whether drugs should be legal or illegal, but whether the user is doing something morally wrong.

Agree with you about animals (though disagree with the stupid taboo that its okay to eat a pig but not a dog). Raising animals for food is cruel, inefficient and totally unnecessary. However, in some circumstances (ie survival) it is okay to eat anything for food, including humans. The same applies if they are already dead. Just like I have no problem with necrophilia if the deceased consented, I would have no problem with cannibalism in such circumstances either.

 

[Name_Taken]

The problem here is that you clearly know nothing about drugs.


Primitivist idiots will continue to exist, but that doesn't mean they aren't, ultimately, losers

I know enough about illicet drugs not to be stupid enough to use them. I don't think I can say the same thing for you.

Billions of dollars have been spent in public education campaigns to warn about the side-effects of drug use. There must be some truth there.

Furthermore religion is hardely a primitive aspect of humanity, rather one of the most civilising.

 

[Enforsa_Said]

not Islam though.

 

[kelly tully]

I know enough about illicet drugs not to be stupid enough to use them. I don't think I can say the same thing for you.

Billions of dollars have been spent in public education campaigns to warn about the side-effects of drug use. There must be some truth there.

Furthermore religion is hardely a primitive aspect of humanity, rather one of the most civilising.

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

oh gosh

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Billions of dollars have been spent in public education campaigns to warn about the side-effects of drug use. There must be some truth there.

If the government has to spend a lot of money to convince us that something is true, it must be true.

 

[Riet]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. And drugs are bad, mmkay?

 

[oddish]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

ones in bold i agree with

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Wow, I really am no fun. But morals are subjective and differ between individuals so I guess that's to be expected.

 

[Name_Taken]

If the government has to spend a lot of money to convince us that something is true, it must be true.

Lol, thats not exaclty what I meant, and its definately not a universal truth that what the government spends money on telling us is true, but in this case I do happen to believe them.

 

[dieburndie]

Lol, thats not exaclty what I meant, and its definately not a universal truth that what the government spends money on telling us is true, but in this case I do happen to believe them.

Okay, so your previous point was entirely invalid?

"In this case I happen I happen to believe them for no real reason"

 

[Riet]

Why do you differentiate between drugs that are legal and those that are banned, in most cases for purely historical reasons?

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Lol, thats not exaclty what I meant, and its definately not a universal truth that what the government spends money on telling us is true, but in this case I do happen to believe them.

So why do you believe them?

Do you believe marijuana is more harmful than alcohol? If not, do you favor criminalization of alcohol?

 

[KFunk]

Interesting that people keep saying this about prostitution and pornography. I guess I should clarify, do you think that the activities are INHERENTLY wrong?

Read the part of my post where I say that they are not wrong in and of themselves (imo).

 

[KFunk]

I'm gonna nitpick because I agree with you on the big things.

You're (nearly) a doctor dude, so what the hell? GHB? Seriously? It's alcohol without the hangover and without the toxicity, and no more potent (remember, nobody sane drinks 100% ethanol). It's probably one of the softest drugs out there, just with a shitty reputation for date rape (which could be done with lots of other drugs, and often is - including alcohol). It's also naturally produced by your body each as a neurotransmitter.

Sure, fair call. I put it in the latter category on account of issues of doseage and the risk of respiratory depression when too much is taken, especially in combination with alcohol. It is the kind of drug which ideally requires regulation of concentration/doseage (along the lines of alcohol), versus a drug like marijuanna for which this isn't really an issue (granted, similar issues re: purity, rather than concentration, could be brought up for ecstasy).

 

[KFunk]

Regulation schmegulation.

If we're going to have crack bars then I would rather keep the curious youngsters out, so to speak.

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

If we're going to have crack bars then I would rather keep the curious youngsters out, so to speak.

Very unlikely crack would have even been popularized had it not been for the criminalization of cocaine.

Quite frankly I'd rather have kids trying a bit of pure cocaine or heroin than some of the things kids determined to get high currently experiment with such as petrol, glue and aerosols.

 

[Slidey]

What? Where did you get this? THe risk of birth defects is actually higher with first cousins than with siblings.

How exactly is that logical since siblings are likely to share 50% of the same genetic code compared 1st cousins probably only sharing 25% or so? It should be reasonably obvious which one is more at risk from recessive diseases like cystic fibrosis.

I meant the kids borne from such a relationship would have down syndrome and autism etc. Bad bad genes.
Couldn't care about the relationship itself. What's a little incest among family, eh?

Kids born to 1st cousins have about a 5% chance of birth defects.

Kids born to 40 year-old mothers have about a 5% chance of birth defects.

Kids born to normal, healthy mothers have about a 2.5% chance of birth defects.

Clearly the genetic argument against cousin incest is rubbish (although it should be noted 'compounding' incest isn't as safe - that's where the child of two 1st cousins has offspring with his own 1st cousin).

 

[Name_Taken]

So why do you believe them?

Do you believe marijuana is more harmful than alcohol? If not, do you favor criminalization of alcohol?

No by saying its not a universal truth, it was an admission that just because a government chooses to spend money on raising awareness over a certain issue, doesn't mean to say that the the view of the government is necessarily the correct one.

That said it is irrelevant because regardless, I happen to believe the governments education campaign relating to drugs, and so whether or not what the government says is always right or not is unimportant.

I believe that marijuana is a potentially harmful drug whose use shouldn't be endoresed by the government through its legalisation.

Alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs in terms of damage to individuals and harm to society, but this is mainly because it is legal and so easy to obtain and over expose oneself to.
Likewise, I think that if currently illicet drugs such as marijuana were made legal, the number of people using them would increase dramatically and as such it would cause more harm to society. The fact that it is illegal is a major deterant to its use and severly increases the risks associated with obtaining it.

I don't think the government on a practical level could ban alcohol even if they wanted to as it is engrained as an almost central aspect of Western and Australian culture.

 

[Riet]

No by saying its not a universal truth, it was an admission that just because a government chooses to spend money on raising awareness over a certain issue, doesn't mean to say that the the view of the government is necessarily the correct one.

That said it is irrelevant because regardless, I happen to believe the governments education campaign relating to drugs, and so whether or not what the government says is always right or not is unimportant.

I believe that marijuana is a potentially harmful drug whose use shouldn't be endoresed by the government through its legalisation.

Alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs in terms of damage to individuals and harm to society, but this is mainly because it is legal and so easy to obtain and over expose oneself to.
Likewise, I think that if currently illicet drugs such as marijuana were made legal, the number of people using them would increase dramatically and as such it would cause more harm to society. The fact that it is illegal is a major deterant to its use and severly increases the risks associated with obtaining it.

I don't think the government on a practical level could ban alcohol even if they wanted to as it is engrained as an almost central aspect of Western and Australian culture.

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