Homosexuality in Australia (10 Viewers)

[Kwayera]

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Please just explain this. You cant. Why do you ignore some parts of the bible and not others?

I actually know the answer to this. It's because so-called "wise men" told him he could ignore some bits and not others. I just want him to say it.

 

[Ethanescence]

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please just explain this. You can't. Or can you? Why do you ignore some parts of the bible and not others?

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[Name_Taken]

No, it is, unless you can explain how it isn't. Hey, I'm all ears.


Shush, Iron.

If you wish to assert that I am a hypocrite, it just demonstrates your ignorace of everything we have been telling you. I am a sinner as are you. The difference is I try and resist my temptations to sin and don't take pride in myself when I fail.

Lol, I had to look for like 5 minutes to find that

 

[BlackDragon]

Again:

I noticed you ignored the pronouncements about getting drunk. And wearing mixed cloth.

So again: you're cherry picking one sin and ignoring others, and that sir is hypocritical.
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Please just explain this. You can't. Or can you? Why do you ignore some parts of the bible and not others?

 

[SnowFox]

Lol, I had to look for like 5 minutes to find that

It does not answer the question she put at hand.



But continuing on what you just posted. Some people dont believe in Sin, so why should those people be discriminated against because of a rule issued from a 2000 year old book?

 

[Name_Taken]

Oh and all of you please, do you really think that I (or Iron for that matter) have the time or the desire to reply to each adn every one of your posts? (almost all of which, like 99% we've already discussed in previous posts, anyway)...

Some of us do have lives outside of Bored of Studies. Don't take it personally and think we're ignoring you, or we don't have an answer to your questions, its more like I seriously CBB answering 3 pages or so of questions in the holidays

 

[SnowFox]

Oh and all of you please, do you really think that I (or Iron for that matter) have the time or the desire to reply to each adn every one of your posts? (almost all of which, like 99% we've already discussed in previous posts, anyway)...

Some of us do have lives outside of Bored of Studies. Don't take it personally and think we're ignoring you, or we don't have an answer to your questions, its more like I seriously CBB answering 3 pages or so of questions in the holidays

Since the majority is asking the same question, i think you are load of shit and just cant answer the bloody question.

 

[Ethanescence]

Oh and all of you please, do you really think that I (or Iron for that matter) have the time or the desire to reply to each adn every one of your posts? (almost all of which, like 99% we've already discussed in previous posts, anyway)...

Some of us do have lives outside of Bored of Studies. Don't take it personally and think we're ignoring you, or we don't have an answer to your questions, its more like I seriously CBB answering 3 pages or so of questions in the holidays

Stop making excuses and just answer the question.

 

[BlackDragon]

One question, we're all asking one question:

Why can't you tell us why you're selective about what's in the bible?

 

[Name_Taken]

It does not answer the question she put at hand.



But continuing on what you just posted. Some people dont believe in Sin, so why should those people be discriminated against because of a rule issued from a 2000 year old book?

They shouldn't be.

I never suggested they shouldn't be able to practice homosexuality, let alone that they should be punished, or the target of state inspired descrimination.

What I said is people should face the facts; homosexuality is not a healthy lifestyle, we should not be promoting it in our society, and while we may tolerate an individuals right to choose who they have sex with (including people of the same sex etc.) we should not compromise the rights of children to be raised by a mother and father or tarnish the dignity of traditional marriage (as well as offend every major religion within society an infringe on their right to see and describe homosexuality as a sin) by allowing gay marriage and adoption.

 

[Name_Taken]

One question, we're all asking one question:

Why can't you tell us why you're selective about what's in the bible?

Ok, tell me what I am being selective about.

What does the Bible tell me to do, that I make a point of ignoring? (Specific examples plox).

 

[SnowFox]

They shouldn't be.

I never suggested they shouldn't be able to practice homosexuality, let alone that they should be punished, or the target of state inspired descrimination.

What I said is people should face the facts; homosexuality is not a healthy lifestyle, we should not be promoting it in our society, and while we may tolerate an individuals right to choose who they have sex with (including people of the same sex etc.) we should not compromise the rights of children to be raised by a mother and father or tarnish the dignity of traditional marriage (as well as offend every major religion within society an infringe on their right to see and describe homosexuality as a sin) by allowing gay marriage and adoption.

But it is still discrimination because it is apparently offending religions.


Religious bodies should not have any say in the lives of people who do not follow the religion.

 

[Name_Taken]

Really? I thought that Christians wants to kill all the homosexuals..

Or send them all to hell, Satan, etc..

No that is the universal punishment for rejecting God throughout your life and chosing to live a life of sin, it is definately not exclusive to homosexuals.

Being homosexual in itself is not enough justification to be sent to Hell, the big thing is reject God.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

They shouldn't be.

I never suggested they shouldn't be able to practice homosexuality, let alone that they should be punished, or the target of state inspired descrimination.

You did say it was a sin though.

What I said is people should face the facts; homosexuality is not a healthy lifestyle, we should not be promoting it in our society, and while we may tolerate an individuals right to choose who they have sex with (including people of the same sex etc.) we should not compromise the rights of children to be raised by a mother and father or tarnish the dignity of traditional marriage (as well as offend every major religion within society an infringe on their right to see and describe homosexuality as a sin) by allowing gay marriage and adoption.

What's not healthy about it?

Marriage was once seen, more or less, as a business agreement between two families. Meh, marriage is beyond tarnish now right?

 

[Absolutezero]

Ok, tell me what I am being selective about.

What does the Bible tell me to do, that I make a point of ignoring? (Specific examples plox).

I always found the suggested offerings for sin to be usually ignored...

Did you sacrifice your:
Female lamb
Two Doves
Two Pigeons (plus the sprinkling of blood)
2L of fine flour

For making a forgotten promise to the Lord?

 

[Kwayera]

Ok, tell me what I am being selective about.

What does the Bible tell me to do, that I make a point of ignoring? (Specific examples plox).

You got drunk the other night (you said you had a hangover) and drinking to excess is apparently a sin. So is wearing mixed cloth. Do you wear mixed cloth?

These "sins" are all as ridiculous as each other.

 

[BlackDragon]

The contradictions are grouped together below:

 

[Will Shakespear]

One question, we're all asking one question:

Why can't you tell us why you're selective about what's in the bible?

I'm not asking that question.

The bible is irrelevant because it's not at all useful for developing any sort of valid moral framework. It's just one of humanity's many pre-scientific, rudimentary attempt at philosophy, spirituality etc. It contains exactly what you'd expect in a book written by ancient, ignorant men - a mixture of hideously immoral actions and teachings (all the genocides, condoning slavery and rape, etc.) and inherent moral truths which were evident to cultures across the world who'd never heard of it (don't kill n steal), and the belief, as all ancient societies had, that their god (Yahweh) supported their tribe in war.

I'm interested in a single rational reason why homosexuality could be deemed to be morally wrong. So far "it's not natural" and "public health" have failed miserably.

EDIT: Alternatively, I suppose one could also propose a rational reason why we should listen to anything in the Bible...

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

Against Money Lending: Leviticus 25:37 "You are to lend neither money at interest nor food at a profit."

Does that also mean food grocers? Or am i interpreting it wrong?

 

[Absolutezero]

Against Money Lending: Leviticus 25:37 "You are to lend neither money at interest nor food at a profit."

On a similar note.... Leviticus 22:14, if someone eats some of the Holy Offering, that person must pay the priest back the same amount, plus an additional 1/5.

Aparrently you can profit off Holy Offerings...